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  • Goatnapper'96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10924

    #286
    Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
    I'm sure it has. The injury has probably lingered longer in his head than body.
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    • Jarid in Cedar
      CS Institutional Memory
      • Jun 2009
      • 13234

      #287
      Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
      Were you guys asleep at the wheel last season? Heaps had his ribbed popped out against Utah when he was hit by a defender. The trainers popped it back in at half time and he played the rest of the game. He also played against Utep, but it was mentioned that the injury was still bothering him some and after the season he was going to take time off to let it heal. None of this is news.
      It takes 8-10 weeks to heal a rib fracture. This injury would be in the same ballpark.
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      • byu71
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 22070

        #288
        Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
        No. Heaps was anointed the starter and did well enough to not lose it in practice. Did you actually think that Nelson was actually allowed to compete against St. Hypes for the starting role?
        If you came across a little less strong in your opinions fewer people would think you have your head up your ass.

        Of course that is just my opinion.

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        • lambdacoug
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 3981

          #289
          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
          If you came across a little less strong in your opinions fewer people would think you have your head up your ass.

          Of course that is just my opinion.
          *shrug*
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          • byu71
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22070

            #290
            Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
            *shrug*
            Good comeback, not excellent, but a solid good. You passed.

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            • Blueintheface
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 15382

              #291
              Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
              I'm sure it has. The injury has probably lingered longer in his head than body.
              Ding ding ding.

              Jordan Pendleton needs to hit him from the blind side at full speed. Twice.
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              • Donuthole
                Official Outgayer
                • Nov 2008
                • 25265

                #292
                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                Ding ding ding.

                Jordan Pendleton needs to hit him from the blind side at full speed. Twice.
                But then Pendleton would probably be injured.
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                • byu71
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22070

                  #293
                  Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                  I'm sure it has. The injury has probably lingered longer in his head than body.
                  and that could explain not wanting to take a hit.

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                  • Blueintheface
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 15382

                    #294
                    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                    But then Pendleton would probably be injured.
                    Ok, that made me laugh.

                    Maybe Uale could do it. Nah, he'd take a bad angle and miss a non-moving target.
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                    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                    • MarkGrace
                      Grooveshark dick tease
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 31546

                      #295
                      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                      But then Pendleton would probably be injured.
                      haha
                      So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                      • MarkGrace
                        Grooveshark dick tease
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 31546

                        #296
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        and that could explain not wanting to take a hit.
                        The only problem is that he didn't show any of these soft tendencies in the 2nd half of the Utah game or against Utep (while he was actually playing with the injury). However, it's possible that in the offseason, as the injury possibly took longer to heal than expected, he took on this mentality of self preservation. Then he opens against Ole Miss with a big corner blitz and all of a sudden we get what we're seeing. Though I've always thought, and still think, he was mostly fine through the first three games, all things considered. It was against UCF and Utah St. that he really droppped into the shitter, and I think the only significant event between those games was getting booed at the end of the Utah game and seeing the crowd's exuberance when Riley entered. I think that messed with his head more than anything else so far.
                        So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                        • lambdacoug
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 3981

                          #297
                          Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                          The only problem is that he didn't show any of these soft tendencies in the 2nd half of the Utah game or against Utep (while he was actually playing with the injury). However, it's possible that in the offseason, as the injury possibly took longer to heal than expected, he took on this mentality of self preservation. Then he opens against Ole Miss with a big corner blitz and all of a sudden we get what we're seeing. Though I've always thought, and still think, he was mostly fine through the first three games, all things considered. It was against UCF and Utah St. that he really droppped into the shitter, and I think the only significant event between those games was getting booed at the end of the Utah game and seeing the crowd's exuberance when Riley entered. I think that messed with his head more than anything else so far.
                          Heaps has not put together a complete game all season. Sure, there were some flashes of brilliance in a play here or there. Nothing consistent, though. I think the team had rallied around him at the beginning, but started backing off when Heaps started showing his arrogance in remarks to the media. That kind of stuff is toxic to a team. He believed his own hype and when he lost the rapport with the team, he was clueless how to get it back and played like an automaton against UCF and USU. Benching him, is probably going to be a very good thing for him, if he works through it and earns the rapport with the team again.
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                          - Howard Aiken

                          Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                          - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                          • Blueintheface
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 15382

                            #298
                            Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                            The only problem is that he didn't show any of these soft tendencies in the 2nd half of the Utah game or against Utep (while he was actually playing with the injury). However, it's possible that in the offseason, as the injury possibly took longer to heal than expected, he took on this mentality of self preservation. Then he opens against Ole Miss with a big corner blitz and all of a sudden we get what we're seeing. Though I've always thought, and still think, he was mostly fine through the first three games, all things considered. It was against UCF and Utah St. that he really droppped into the shitter, and I think the only significant event between those games was getting booed at the end of the Utah game and seeing the crowd's exuberance when Riley entered. I think that messed with his head more than anything else so far.
                            Mental fragility. It's amazing when you look back at fall camp of 2010. When I first saw him in practice his freshman year I thought his only flaw was his height. His slow start last year didn't bother me in the least as I played it off to inexperience, poor coaching/qb selection. Something snapped in the kid's head in that Utah game this year though and I think it had more to do with the look in his teammate's eyes than any booing or injury. He had lost them and he knew it.
                            "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                            "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                            • MarkGrace
                              Grooveshark dick tease
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 31546

                              #299
                              Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
                              Heaps has not put together a complete game all season. Sure, there were some flashes of brilliance in a play here or there. Nothing consistent, though.
                              Don't disgree with that.

                              I think the team had rallied around him at the beginning, but started backing off when Heaps started showing his arrogance in remarks to the media. That kind of stuff is toxic to a team. He believed his own hype and when he lost the rapport with the team, he was clueless how to get it back and played like an automaton against UCF and USU. Benching him, is probably going to be a very good thing for him, if he works through it and earns the rapport with the team again.
                              Something snapped in the kid's head in that Utah game this year though and I think it had more to do with the look in his teammate's eyes than any booing or injury. He had lost them and he knew it.
                              I think it's becoming clear based on comments from some players that he possibly never really had them. Or, at least, he didn't have certain key guys with a lot of sway. I think there are guys who always wanted Riley and it was an easy sell after Jake's inconsistent play through the first handful of games.
                              So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                              • pellegrino
                                miserere me
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 12100

                                #300
                                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                                Mental fragility. It's amazing when you look back at fall camp of 2010. When I first saw him in practice his freshman year I thought his only flaw was his height. His slow start last year didn't bother me in the least as I played it off to inexperience, poor coaching/qb selection. Something snapped in the kid's head in that Utah game this year though and I think it had more to do with the look in his teammate's eyes than any booing or injury. He had lost them and he knew it.
                                Could it be his fumble to start the game and his attitude about it afterwards?
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