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  • Hot Lunch
    Out of Office
    • Nov 2008
    • 7842

    #211
    Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
    Bronco has stated many times that he is not involved in deciding which QB plays unless it's a very unusual circumstance.
    It wasn't Doman.
    "Take it to the Bank"

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    • SoonerCoug
      Joycelyn Elders Supporter
      • Nov 2008
      • 4680

      #212
      Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
      It wasn't Doman.
      How do you know? Bronco said that Doman and Anae make the decision.
      That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

      http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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      • BlueHair
        Boom Bitches!!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 2894

        #213
        I'm probably not going to attend any more home games unless Heaps is named starter before the game. I'm sure Nelson is a good kid and hard competitor, but he's just not good enough. Let's take our lumps and let Heaps start, even if we lose a few more games. Bring Riley in for 7 or 8 plays a game or have him play tailback. I'll still watch the games, but I don't want to invest the extra time to go to the stadium to watch us run qb draws all day.

        The only thing that makes me feel any better is that AFA gets a win on September 11th.
        Just try it once. One beer or one cigarette or one porno movie won't hurt. - Dallin H. Oaks

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        • Hot Lunch
          Out of Office
          • Nov 2008
          • 7842

          #214
          Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
          How do you know? Bronco said that Doman and Anae make the decision.
          I know more about the program than you do. So either you believe or you don't. I really don't care either way.
          "Take it to the Bank"

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          • SoonerCoug
            Joycelyn Elders Supporter
            • Nov 2008
            • 4680

            #215
            Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
            I know more about the program than you do. So either you believe or you don't. I really don't care either way.
            So you're saying that Bronco lied when he said that Anae and Doman decide which QB plays unless it's an unusual circumstance?
            That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

            http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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            • MarkGrace
              Grooveshark dick tease
              • Dec 2008
              • 31546

              #216
              Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
              How do you know? Bronco said that Doman and Anae make the decision.
              Dude, no sense agruing. It's been very apparent that Bronco picked the starter despite the fact that Anae and Doman wanted Heaps. Doman even said on the radio that Bronco made the decision.
              So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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              • woot
                Resident Science Cop
                • Nov 2008
                • 5531

                #217
                Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                So you're saying that Bronco lied when he said that Anae and Doman decide which QB plays unless it's an unusual circumstance?
                No, he's saying it was Anae.

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                • SoonerCoug
                  Joycelyn Elders Supporter
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 4680

                  #218
                  Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                  Dude, no sense agruing. It's been very apparent that Bronco picked the starter despite the fact that Anae and Doman wanted Heaps. Doman even said on the radio that Bronco made the decision.
                  Well Bronco has said repeatedly that Anae and Doman decide who plays QB and how much they play. If Doman said that Bronco decided, then either Bronco or Doman is lying.
                  That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

                  http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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                  • Goatnapper'96
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10924

                    #219
                    Originally posted by BlueHair View Post
                    I'm probably not going to attend any more home games unless Heaps is named starter before the game. I'm sure Nelson is a good kid and hard competitor, but he's just not good enough. Let's take our lumps and let Heaps start, even if we lose a few more games. Bring Riley in for 7 or 8 plays a game or have him play tailback. I'll still watch the games, but I don't want to invest the extra time to go to the stadium to watch us run qb draws all day.

                    The only thing that makes me feel any better is that AFA gets a win on September 11th.
                    It will be interesting to see if and when that decision comes. I doubt he throws Heaps to the dogs next week, but I am convinced it will come before TCU.

                    I really don't know how they are going to treat this. This coaching staff is not prone to emotional over-reactions.
                    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                    -General George S. Patton

                    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                    -DOCTOR Wuap

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                    • SCcoug
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7625

                      #220
                      Cheer up guys, I heard the firesides last night were awesome. Also think of all the character the Cougars are building in this lose, Win-Win!

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                      • SoonerCoug
                        Joycelyn Elders Supporter
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4680

                        #221
                        Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                        This coaching staff is not prone to emotional over-reactions.
                        Playing Nelson exclusively was an irrational, emotional overreaction to being down and to Heaps throwing a single INT.
                        That which may be asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence. -C. Hitchens

                        http://twitter.com/SoonerCoug

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                        • byu71
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22070

                          #222
                          Too many fans griping. It is going to get back to Bronco. I am laying odds Bronco will have something to say to the fans about them knowing nothing sometime this week.

                          Look, the guy has won 10 games a year. He knows what he is doing.

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                          • Color Me Badd Fan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 12519

                            #223
                            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                            I think Mendenhall's issue in this case is not having a qb ready to take the reins. Well that not having the clout, despite his pandering to the mullahs, to keep Unga in school this year. I think if he is going to waste it, so to speak, he isn't going to do that with Heaps. He saw how it screwed up Beck's head and he isn't going to follow that road. I think that when they really believe Heaps is ready, they will go with him. IMO that is likely to happen by the next conference game. I think Mendenhall really wants it clear that Heaps is the guy. As much as today sucks, it kind of spells that out for all. What really hurts, IMO, is that BYU's defense should have been better today.
                            I think this is true, but Heaps will be starting after FSU. Before the season started, I thought it was going to happen after TCU given the fact there are four straight gimmes before the Utah game after that TCU game. The two losses at FSU and TCU would be pinned on Nelson and Heaps would come in under low expectations for the season.

                            I think that Nelson will be thrown to the wolves at FSU instead of Heaps for the reasons you stated.
                            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                            • MarkGrace
                              Grooveshark dick tease
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 31546

                              #224
                              Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                              Well Bronco has said repeatedly that Anae and Doman decide who plays QB and how much they play. If Doman said that Bronco decided, then either Bronco or Doman is lying.
                              You can dig up posts if you want, but everyone close to the situation has said the same thing: Anae and Doman decided on Heaps, Bronco overruled them and it was his decision to play 2QBs. At least one of them (Anae) was apparently very ticked by it.
                              So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                              • Goatnapper'96
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10924

                                #225
                                Originally posted by SoonerCoug View Post
                                Playing Nelson exclusively was an irrational, emotional overreaction to being down and to Heaps throwing a single INT.
                                I don't think so. I think it was a calculated decision based upon what happened to Beck's confidence. I think Heaps is going to be the guy eventually but if there is going to be one whom the fans are going to pile on, it is going to be Riley Nelson. I am not convinced if Heaps played every series today the results would be much different and it would be Heaps everyone would be piling on.
                                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                                -General George S. Patton

                                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                                -DOCTOR Wuap

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