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  • #46
    Originally posted by falafel View Post
    watermelons crack and splatter all over with one drop. I hope you considered that when you switched them out.
    But they spread their seeds everywhere.
    "Wuap's "problem" is that he is smart & principled & committed to a moral course of action. His actions are supposed to reflect his ethical code.
    The rest of us rarely bother to think about our actions." --Solon

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    • #47
      I obviously don't know Heaps personally, but I would think there's got to be a bit of him that's relieved by this decision. I know he wants to start and to play early in his career, but to be named the starter as a true freshman, against your home town team whose heart you broke, that's got to be an overwhelming situation.

      This way, Heaps gets lots of playing time (hopefully), but without nearly as much pressure. If he's rusty his first few possessions, or even the whole game, and we lose, it can't all be pinned on him. That kind of weight could be crushing. Sure, he seems like a tough kid who could bounce back, but it might not be until next season. This way he can hopefully grow and develop without the threat of a major mental scar.
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ted Nugent View Post
        Oh the memories of the 1983 Holiday bowl...

        [YOUTUBE]UPGRZ27YLng[/YOUTUBE]

        This year is most likely going to be a rebuilding year.
        Did you see that nasty Doman boy and how he pointed his fingers at the nice Ute fans? That was so mean!
        At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
        -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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        • #49
          Originally posted by wuapinmon View Post
          But they spread their seeds everywhere.
          Great, thats just what we need. Miles and miles of over-sized, water-filled nuts that can't survive a single kick in the shorts.
          Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

          Dig your own grave, and save!

          "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

          "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
            BYU will be 3-1 after the first 4 games, it does not matter who starts.
            hope so but I think you drastically undervalue UW and UNR.
            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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            • #51
              Originally posted by BGRTHNUMEGO View Post
              One clear disadvantage that this situation creates for Heaps is that the lack of rhythm within the offense with rotating QBs is going to be more easily overcome by Nelson. He's going to have fewer reads to make, his personal rhythm will develop more quickly because of his designed runs, and his passing limitations mean he'll be doing a lot of check downs and drop offs anyway.

              But my hope is that Heaps looks the situation as a challenge, and that if he really is a special player in waiting that he steps up and proves he is the superior option. He's certainly not in the ideal situation to make that happen, but the visibility of games gives him an ideal platform to take the job if he shows he deserves it.
              Lack of rythym is a killer in these situations. I remember the Crowton days when he was just about rotating QBs every play.

              IMO, the only 2 qb system that works is where the dropback passer plays 80 to 90 percent of the plays and the other guy comes in and take a couple snaps to run the option. Then once or twice a game the running QB fakes the option, drops back and hits a receiver on a long bomb. For a QB, rythym is crucial.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                hope so but I think you drastically undervalue UW and UNR.
                CJ's always been one to knock Utah at every chance, but he doesn't seem to be too much of blue-goggler. He knows way more than me and I like how his prediction makes me feel, so I'm on board!
                At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                  Lack of rythym is a killer in these situations. I remember the Crowton days when he was just about rotating QBs every play.

                  IMO, the only 2 qb system that works is where the dropback passer plays 80 to 90 percent of the plays and the other guy comes in and take a couple snaps to run the option. Then once or twice a game the running QB fakes the option, drops back and hits a receiver on a long bomb. For a QB, rythym is crucial.
                  And that's why, for all the talk of giving each guy an equal chance to win the job and putting them both in situations to perform well, it is the true freshman that is being put at a very clear disadvantage if they use Nelson as anything more than a situational QB.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by falafel View Post
                    That kind of weight could be crushing. Sure, he seems like a tough kid who could bounce back, but it might not be until next season. This way he can hopefully grow and develop without the threat of a major mental scar.
                    I think you overestimate how much a loss would hurt the psyche. It is his first college game and he is a true freshman. If losing your first game as a true freshman at home is going to ruin you for the whole season then you are not the QB of the future.
                    Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                      I think you overestimate how much a loss would hurt the psyche. It is his first college game and he is a true freshman. If losing your first game as a true freshman at home is going to ruin you for the whole season then you are not the QB of the future.
                      Maybe. This this isn't just "a loss."
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
                        I think this is a ruse. I think Nelson is the guy and Heaps will have a series at some point in the game. If Heaps does well, we may continue to see him. I really think we see Nelson for most snaps this year.
                        Please let this be true. I would be thrilled if Nelson is the guy and get most of the snaps.
                        As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                        --Kendrick Lamar

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                          hope so but I think you drastically undervalue UW and UNR.
                          I think you drastically undervalue our offensive line, the ability of our wide receivers and the best secondary at BYU since 1996.
                          *Banned*

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by falafel View Post
                            Maybe. This this isn't just "a loss."
                            Because it is Washington? If he can't get over that, he is weak minded. Seriously. If he is unable to shrug off a loss in his first college game as a true freshman then he is weak.

                            I don't think he is weak.
                            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                              WRONG THREAD...
                              I'm sorry ... was I the first one to talk about the pratfalls presented by AFA?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                                I'm sorry ... was I the first one to talk about the pratfalls presented by AFA?
                                We own Air Force we will smash the shit out of them like we always do. Our front 7 is faster than its been since 2006 and much more athletic. We have corners who are great at tackling and the best safety in the conference. I am not worried about Air Force. Not to mention our O-line always dominates the pipsqueak cadets and wears them down. We will run it down their throats and win going away.
                                *Banned*

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