Hypothetical BYU scheduling as an independent

[ERCougar]

Now here is an understatement in a sea of hyperbole.

I know this ND game thing is a little new to you guys and that you'll never dream of getting them to come to SLC, but we actually have pulled this off before.

[beelzebabette]

Looks pretty even, or even slightly in favor of the independent schedule.

Not exactly overwhelming evidence to warrant a sticky.

You asked how on earth we get ND on the schedule. I answered, you ignored.

Didn't ignore--I discounted. ND can get just about any school to work a game into their schedule at ND's convenience. I don't think it gets significantly easier for BYU suddenly, due to the need to fill an entire schedule.

FTR, I'd rather play Wyoming than Duke. I will, however, concede that there are people out there that would like to play Hawaii. From a football perspective, though, that's not a great pickup.

[Solon]

This all depends on the terms of the deal that BYU strikes with ESPN. It is rumored to have an emphasis on helping BYU find BCS matchups not just any Non-AQ schlubs who happen to be available. It starts, allegedly, with an understanding that ESPN will facilitate a BYU-Notre Dame pairing in 2011.

But this line of thought also ignores the fact that Navy and Army don't have the caliber of football program that BYU does. Army flatout sucks and needs to play a week schedule in order to win occasionally and Navy has been edging into bowl eligibility for the past few years in part by playing a fair number of patsies.

That said - Navy is improving and their schedule is improving. Have you looked at their 2010 schedule?

Maryland, Wake Forest, Notre Dame, Air Force, SMU, Duke, Central Michigan, Army, Arkansas State, La Tech, Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern, CM and Ark State are unacceptable - but the rest are as good/better than a standard BYU sched including four BCS teams.

And BYU would NEVER have to schedule the Georgia Southern types because (again allegedly) we will have scheduling rights with the WAC that will allow us to fill our open schedule spots with WAC teams at least.

So take Navy's sched for next year and replace those teams with three WAC teams and you'd get:

Maryland / Wake / Notre Dame / AFA / SMU / Fresno State / Duke/ Army / Hawaii / La Tech / Utah / Utah State

that's not a bad schedule AT ALL.

Not that anyone cares about this, but that's a lot of traveling for student athletes during a semester.

[statman]

This might work if you move those P12, B10 and ACC games to the first 5 weeks of the season instead of the last 3. No chance that they agree to those games in late November.

So I could see you have
1-Utah
2-BSU
3-P12
4-B10
5-ACC
Bye
6-12 Garbage

If you go 4-1 or better to start you have a good season, anything else you end up in a bowl similar to Vegas. So why leave?

Just listing teams, not weeks...

[SloanHater]

Not exactly overwhelming evidence to warrant a sticky.


Didn't ignore--I discounted. ND can get just about any school to work a game into their schedule at ND's convenience. I don't think it gets significantly easier for BYU suddenly, due to the need to fill an entire schedule.

FTR, I'd rather play Wyoming than Duke. I will, however, concede that there are people out there that would like to play Hawaii. From a football perspective, though, that's not a great pickup.

You'd rather play a regional rival with whom you have history than a schedule filler?

[oxcoug]

BYU 2 and 1 commitments from Fresno?

Just listing teams, not weeks...

From a Fresno State poster on the BSU board:

FStDogsR1 wrote: "I am hearing Fresno State will sign a long term multiple 2 at BYU, 1 in Fresno deals for football and will agree to the WAC B-Ball tourney being in Provo for the next five years."

[Surfah]

From a Fresno State poster on the BSU board:

FStDogsR1 wrote: "I am hearing Fresno State will sign a long term multiple 2 at BYU, 1 in Fresno deals for football and will agree to the WAC B-Ball tourney being in Provo for the next five years."

Sweet if true.

[creekster]

Not that anyone cares about this, but that's a lot of traveling for student athletes during a semester.

There is a thread already for needle necked wankers. It is not this thread.

[Jeff Lebowski]

You asked how on earth we get ND on the schedule. I answered, you ignored.

I said Duke, a BCS team, is as good or better on our schedule than Wyoming. You replied that Duke doesn't get us a BCS bid. Great point, but unfortunately completely irrelevant.

Yes, you did leave BSU out of the hypothetical. Of course, you substituted Texas/OU/FSU in its place. I must not have the connections you do, but I haven't seen the schedule that has Texas, OU, and FSU all on the same year. If it's out there, then yes, that schedule might be better than a future independent schedule.

So let's do a real comparison:
BYU 2011 independent hypothetical (parentheses - current year's opponent to compart)
Maryland (Washington) - slight edge to UW
Wake (TCU) - Edge to TCU
Notre Dame (FSU) - Edge ND
AFA (AFA)
SMU (UNLV) - Couldn't care less
Fresno (Nevada) - Couldn't care less
Duke (Wyoming) - Edge Duke
Army (CSU) - Edge Army
Hawaii - Edge Hawaii
La Tech (UNM) - Couldn't care less...maybe slight UNM edge
Utah (Utah)
Utah State (Utah St)
Navy (BSU) - Edge to BSU

Looks pretty even, or even slightly in favor of the independent schedule.

And you were touting that all morning as a slam dunk?

[CJF]

From a Fresno State poster on the BSU board:

FStDogsR1 wrote: "I am hearing Fresno State will sign a long term multiple 2 at BYU, 1 in Fresno deals for football and will agree to the WAC B-Ball tourney being in Provo for the next five years."

Sounds like the trolling has started.

[oxcoug]

Sounds like the trolling has started.

Yeah CJF I'm inclined to agree that's a pretty trollish comment - 2 and 1s with FSU I could see, giving Provo the WAC hoops tournament for five years seems unlikely.

On the other hand - this would be HUGE for the WAC and they might just be desperate enough to make concessions. We'll see.

[Green Monstah]

Did you guys see that the Trib just posted an article confirming all the talk??

[ERCougar]

Link

And you were touting that all morning as a slam dunk?

Link? I said it was a decent answer to the scheduling
questions. The rest of the advantages make it a slam dunk.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I'm pumped to finally get Idaho on the schedule and New Mexico State. Hopefully we can get home/home series.

[oxcoug]

Did you guys see that the Trib just posted an article confirming all the talk??

I did here:

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/cougars...rence.html.csp

"Done deal" it says - but it doesn't actually name any sources.