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  • #31
    Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
    Maryland, Wake Forest, Notre Dame, Air Force, SMU, Duke, Central Michigan, Army, Arkansas State, La Tech, Georgia Southern. Georgia Southern, CM and Ark State are unacceptable - but the rest are as good/better than a standard BYU sched including four BCS teams.

    And BYU would NEVER have to schedule the Georgia Southern types because (again allegedly) we will have scheduling rights with the WAC that will allow us to fill our open schedule spots with WAC teams at least.

    So take Navy's sched for next year and replace those teams with three WAC teams and you'd get:

    Maryland / Wake / Notre Dame / AFA / SMU / Fresno State / Duke/ Army / Hawaii / La Tech / Utah / Utah State

    that's not a bad schedule AT ALL.
    Exactly.

    I'm not even sure what BO's point was. I'd almost trade for Navy's current schedule, with a game with ND every year. It's not like we're playing PAC 12 teams every week.
    At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
    -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
      Exactly.

      I'm not even sure what BO's point was. I'd almost trade for Navy's current schedule, with a game with ND every year. It's not like we're playing PAC 12 teams every week.
      If the schedule is

      Maryland / Wake / Notre Dame / AFA / SMU / Fresno State / Duke/ Army / Hawaii / La Tech / Utah / Utah State

      that's four teams that went bowling in 2009. Going undefeated with that schedule in 2010 doesn't get you into a BCS game; and one loss gets you a pre-Christmas bowl game against a non-BCS team.
      "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
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      • #33
        Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
        If the schedule is

        Maryland / Wake / Notre Dame / AFA / SMU / Fresno State / Duke/ Army / Hawaii / La Tech / Utah / Utah State

        that's four teams that went bowling in 2009. Going undefeated with that schedule in 2010 doesn't get you into a BCS game; and one loss gets you a pre-Christmas bowl game against a non-BCS team.
        Did you mean "does"? I don't know if you can say either way. Hawaii got in in 2007 with about the worst schedule possible, but that was a pretty freaky year.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
          If the schedule is

          Maryland / Wake / Notre Dame / AFA / SMU / Fresno State / Duke/ Army / Hawaii / La Tech / Utah / Utah State

          that's four teams that went bowling in 2009. Going undefeated with that schedule in 2010 doesn't get you into a BCS game; and one loss gets you a pre-Christmas bowl game against a non-BCS team.
          BYU going undefeated with that schedule will result in a BCS game. Heck, Hawaii got into one with one of the worst schedules ever. BYU has a brand in college football. It is known as a team that can at least compete with big teams which is the same as Utah, BSU and TCU. It's true we haven't been to a BCS game but we have qualified for one (at least I think we qualified last year but TCU/BSU obviously took the slots).

          The biggest issue is the lack of big teams in the west. On the east coast you have the ACC, Big East, SEC and Big 10 that are all within reasonable travel distance. Out west we have the PAC 10 and some Big 12 teams (north division) so the option are limited unless BYU travels a lot to the east coast. That isn't very desirable but I'd take it over the current schedule.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
            If the schedule is

            Maryland / Wake / Notre Dame / AFA / SMU / Fresno State / Duke/ Army / Hawaii / La Tech / Utah / Utah State

            that's four teams that went bowling in 2009. Going undefeated with that schedule in 2010 doesn't get you into a BCS game; and one loss gets you a pre-Christmas bowl game against a non-BCS team.
            Guess what? I can't believe I have to roll out this smack for you, but recruits aren't coming to BYU with plans of going to a BCS bowl game.

            On the one hand, you're saying that the MWC has no chance at an autobid, but on the other hand, you're saying that BYU shouldn't leave the MWC because of the chance at a BCS bowl. What gives?
            At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
            -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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            • #36
              Originally posted by beefytee View Post
              Did you mean "does"? I don't know if you can say either way. Hawaii got in in 2007 with about the worst schedule possible, but that was a pretty freaky year.
              Hawaii had the non-BCS auto-bid rules in their favor. And they were still only ranked 10th in the standings.
              "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
              "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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              • #37
                Originally posted by statman View Post
                ESPN wants BYU's TV truck - especially in September and October before MLB finishes and HD resources are freed up. ESPN will make a lot of concessions to get the use of that truck, especially from a location as 'centrally' located as Provo. Centrally sounds funny, but they're within a days drive to any Big-10, Big-12 or PAC-12 school. If a game suddenly looks like it's the game-to-watch, but they hadn't planned on it being a big game, another western hdtv truck would be invaluable to them...
                Ok this begs the question. How much is it to purchase a HDTV truck?
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                  Ok this begs the question. How much is it to purchase a HDTV truck?
                  I'm kinda wondering the same thing. Is an HDTV truck really a game changer? Why am I not buying all this stuff related to the importance of BYU's truck?

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                  • #39
                    What are Army and Navy's agreements with the BCS?

                    Is it the same as the rest of the Non-BCS conferences?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                      Ok this begs the question. How much is it to purchase a HDTV truck?
                      50 million per Dick Harmon.
                      *Banned*

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        50 million per Dick Harmon.
                        Which begs the question--why did BYU spend 50 million on an HDTV truck? And why doesn't every school do this if it gains them access to ESPN power? Why hasn't Texas done it?
                        At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                        -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                          Which begs the question--why did BYU spend 50 million on an HDTV truck? And why doesn't every school do this if it gains them access to ESPN power? Why hasn't Texas done it?
                          To spread Conference to the world so everyone can see BKP's AK's and SK's in stunning HD.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                            Which begs the question--why did BYU spend 50 million on an HDTV truck? And why doesn't every school do this if it gains them access to ESPN power? Why hasn't Texas done it?
                            Because remember BYU has their own tv networks and I believe the church still owns a portion of KSL so they will be using the truck for more than just sports. That is how they were able to justify it.
                            *Banned*

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                              50 million per Dick Harmon.
                              Link? I seriously had no idea HD cost that much.
                              "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                              "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by statman View Post
                                1) Utah
                                2) Utah State
                                3) Boise State / TCU (they'd love the rivalry and the $$$ - ESPN could make it happen)
                                4) UNLV/CSU/Wyoming
                                5) IAA school
                                6) Army
                                7) Navy
                                8) AFA
                                9) ND (thank you ESPN)
                                10) PAC-12 school (thank you ESPN)
                                11) Big-10 school (thank you ESPN)
                                12) ACC school (thank you ESPN)

                                Depending on the randomness of scheduling and how good teams vary from year to year, that's generally a better schedule than BYU has ever played. And with ESPN helping scheduling, it's very doable...
                                This might work if you move those P12, B10 and ACC games to the first 5 weeks of the season instead of the last 3. No chance that they agree to those games in late November.

                                So I could see you have
                                1-Utah
                                2-BSU
                                3-P12
                                4-B10
                                5-ACC
                                Bye
                                6-12 Garbage

                                If you go 4-1 or better to start you have a good season, anything else you end up in a bowl similar to Vegas. So why leave?
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