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  • Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post
    He's right about qualifying for the NCAA championships, that is an individual thing. I think he underestimates the importance of a good conference to a swimming recruit though. Right now a BYU swimmer knows he will compete against several good MWC teams (UNLV, Utah, TCU) and get a couple of meets with PAC-10 teams as well as a few invitationals. At the beginning of the season you get a couple of tune-up type meets with Seattle U etc... A few individuals will have NCAA championship cuts at the end of the year and will represent BYU at that meet.

    Under this guy's scenario a swimmer would have to be satisfied with Seattle U., Loyola Marymount etc... all season long. I have my doubts that this would be satifsying to top tier recruits. Take Hawaii for instance. The WAC has no men's swimming but Hawaii has a good team. You'd think if the Pacific Coast Conference was an equal option Hawaii's team would compete there. Instead they compete in C-USA. Yes, BYU could still field a team under the scenario he gives, but I think it would be a team that steadily declined in quality.
    If BYU stopped getting top-tier swimming recruits, would anyone notice?
    If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

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    • Originally posted by beefytee View Post
      Are you guys disrespecting the pride of Alberta?!?!?!?!??!?!
      Hell, no. Live long and prosper.

      If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

      "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

      "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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      • Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
        Hell, no. Live long and prosper.

        I have indeed been to Vulcan....or at least driven through it.

        I'm just glad no one has brought up KD Lang.

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        • Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
          If BYU stopped getting top-tier swimming recruits, would anyone notice?
          Well, people might not have to worry as much about having their cars stolen. Peace of mind is a valuable thing.
          "You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."

          "Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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          • JanandGunther

            Sammy Linebaugh just reported on our show that her sources at ESPN say BYU is staying in the MWC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            "Nobody listens to Turtle."
            -Turtle
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            • Originally posted by Surfah View Post

              Seriously. If BYU is indeed staying, I would hope they are only staying because they have been released from the television contract. I can't imagine that comcast signed off on that. And if they haven't received concessions, I can't see BYU sticking around. So in short, I think everyone is full of shit.

              Oh and HL, Gunther just totally dissed you!

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              • Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                I have indeed been to Vulcan....or at least driven through it.

                I'm just glad no one has brought up KD Lang.
                I love KD Lang, but she needs to give David Byrne his big white suit back.
                PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                • Originally posted by SoCalCoug View Post
                  If BYU stopped getting top-tier swimming recruits, would anyone notice?
                  Of course not. But the big boys take care of all their teams don't they?

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                  • Originally posted by creekster View Post
                    I love KD Lang, but she needs to give David Byrne his big white suit back.

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                    • Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                      I have indeed been to Vulcan....or at least driven through it.

                      I'm just glad no one has brought up KD Lang.
                      When my sister says she's going "to town" to get groceries, she means Vulcan.
                      If we disagree on something, it's because you're wrong.

                      "Somebody needs to kill my trial attorney." — Last words of George Harris, executed in Missouri on Sept. 13, 2000.

                      "Nothing is too good to be true, nothing is too good to last, nothing is too wonderful to happen." - Florence Scoville Shinn

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                      • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                        Seriously. If BYU is indeed staying, I would hope they are only staying because they have been released from the television contract. I can't imagine that comcast signed off on that. And if they haven't received concessions, I can't see BYU sticking around. So in short, I think everyone is full of shit.

                        Oh and HL, Gunther just totally dissed you!
                        I agree. All this run up to say "never mind." I don't think so.

                        Another option, I guess, is BYU sticking around because the Big 12 has given it a wink wink deal.
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                        Dig your own grave, and save!

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                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • USC and Texas announce home and home. Also Utah State will play at USC in 2013.
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                          • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                            USC and Texas announce home and home. Also Utah State will play at USC in 2013.
                            USC to the BIG 12!!!
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                              USC and Texas announce home and home. Also Utah State will play at USC in 2013.
                              That's because USC is joining the Big XII. They have a wink-wink deal in place.

                              * EDIT * Crap, I can't type fast enough.
                              "You interns are like swallows. You shit all over my patients for six weeks and then fly off."

                              "Don't be sorry, it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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                              • Originally posted by hostile View Post
                                That's because USC is joining the Big XII. They have a wink-wink deal in place.
                                It does make me wonder a little about the Texas independence idea...
                                At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                                -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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