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If you had any idea how little he had slept in the three weeks prior to that presser, you'd be even more willing to give him a pass.Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View PostYou can check the Press Conference thread as it was going on. I have never heard Dr. Hill sound like this
, but that is what he sounded like. I just chalked it up to ecstatic exuberance. Really it must have been like an out of body experience for him, so he gets a pass from me.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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"Lack of institutional control," counselor.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostThe violations had nothing to do with recruiting--two players received credit from the university for courses they did not take, and no one, the NCAA included, has suggested Holmoe knew of this.
Cal was on probation for earlier recruiting violations, but that was in basketball (a basketball is round, the football is pointy--hope this helps) and in any case those violations occurred the year before Holmoe was hired as head coach.
You must be grateful the Sullivan case allows the uninformed to write things that most would deem libelous.
I always admire a leader who takes responsibility.
The truth is that but for his BYU/LDS connections those sanctions would have blighted him enough that he'd not found another job in college football.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Lol. What in the Hell does that have to do with your comments about Holmoe?Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post"Lack of institutional control," counselor.
I always admire a leader who takes responsibility.
The truth is that but for his BYU/LDS connections those sanctions would have blighted him enough that he'd not found another job in college football."Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Have you ever heard of the concept of respondeat superior?Originally posted by Blueintheface View PostLol. What in the Hell does that have to do with your comments about Holmoe?When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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You apparently have no interest in being taken seriously anymore.Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post"Lack of institutional control," counselor.
I always admire a leader who takes responsibility.
The truth is that but for his BYU/LDS connections those sanctions would have blighted him enough that he'd not found another job in college football.
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I like Holmoe, when I stopped giving to the Cougar Club every year he called me and we talked for about 45 minutes. He asked me if the CC President called me and asked would I give them one more chance? I told Holmoe that because of the impression he had made with me that I would, I got a call from the CC about 4 months later it was Mike Middleton and he said "I'm just calling to check in, I'm really busy today but I'll call you later. Have a good day." That was the last time I heard from anyone, that was in 2007.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostTom Holmoe reads emails sent to him, but not open letters on CUF. If you were really tapped into the AD, you would know that.
As an aside, I would look into the non-profit status of BYUTV and what the effects of commercializing it would be on its future availability.Get confident, stupid
-landpoke
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LOL! Keep digging that hole, SU. You'll get there eventually. Most people would just say...'oops, I thought it directly involved Holmoe, my mistake'. But not you. It's ok, I understand that it's not in your nature to concede that you made an obvious if not somewhat embarrassing mistake.Originally posted by SeattleUte View PostHave you ever heard of the concept of respondeat superior?"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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It's beyond me how Tom can be as responsive as he is to rank and file BYU fans, let alone CC members. The guy has to be working 100 hour weeks.Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View PostI like Holmoe, when I stopped giving to the Cougar Club every year he called me and we talked for about 45 minutes. He asked me if the CC President called me and asked would I give them one more chance? I told Holmoe that because of the impression he had made with me that I would, I got a call from the CC about 4 months later it was Mike Middleton and he said "I'm just calling to check in, I'm really busy today but I'll call you later. Have a good day." That was the last time I heard from anyone, that was in 2007.
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FWIW Dr. Hill has always responded promptly whenever I have emailed him (twice) and I am as rank and file as it gets.Originally posted by Indy Coug View PostIt's beyond me how Tom can be as responsive as he is to rank and file BYU fans, let alone CC members. The guy has to be working 100 hour weeks."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
"And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla
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I think BYU could promote the idea that they know how to roll out this kind of media and perhaps even share some of the technology and resources. All BYU vs. Big 12 teams could be shown on BYU's TV network.Originally posted by Viking View PostYou have a TV network with access in 50MM homes nationwide.
That's your highest card in negotiating with the Big 12. That, with some help to the network, could be pitched as almost NBC light ala ND.
PRESS IT, TOMMY
Basically, 'been there, done that'.
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Nice bullshit response, an embarrassingly weak attempt at recovering from your libelous "he's dishonest" accusation. Writers with integrity would acknowledge they were wrong, apologize, and move on; but when it comes to BYU, you are pathologically incapable of such a response.Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post"Lack of institutional control," counselor.
I always admire a leader who takes responsibility.
The truth is that but for his BYU/LDS connections those sanctions would have blighted him enough that he'd not found another job in college football.
Moving on to your new accusation, it's not news. As soon as Tom learned of the wrongdoing in Cal's academics office, he accepted full responsibility for their screw-up. Although few Cal fans, if any, would want Tom back as a head coach (a job he didn't seek and for which I suspect even he would acknowledge he was unqualified), no one impugns his character or decency as a human being and administrator.
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I wonder what motivation that professor had to issue fake credits and grades, and put his whole career at risk. I wonder if he said it was all his doing and fault. Just wondering, that's all.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostNice bullshit response, an embarrassingly weak attempt at recovering from your libelous "he's dishonest" accusation. Writers with integrity would acknowledge they were wrong, apologize, and move on; but when it comes to BYU, you are pathologically incapable of such a response.
Moving on to your new accusation, it's not news. As soon as Tom learned of the wrongdoing in Cal's academics office, he accepted full responsibility for their screw-up. Although few Cal fans, if any, would want Tom back as a head coach (a job he didn't seek and for which I suspect even he would acknowledge he was unqualified), no one impugns his character or decency as a human being and administrator.When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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Good hell, SU. Do the prudent thing and just lie on the canvas this time.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostNice bullshit response, an embarrassingly weak attempt at recovering from your libelous "he's dishonest" accusation. Writers with integrity would acknowledge they were wrong, apologize, and move on; but when it comes to BYU, you are pathologically incapable of such a response.
Moving on to your new accusation, it's not news. As soon as Tom learned of the wrongdoing in Cal's academics office, he accepted full responsibility for their screw-up. Although few Cal fans, if any, would want Tom back as a head coach (a job he didn't seek and for which I suspect even he would acknowledge he was unqualified), no one impugns his character or decency as a human being and administrator."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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