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  • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    The pac didn't approach TX and OK for expansion?
    Not since they already expanded and signed the best TV deal in college football.
    "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
    -Thucydides

    "Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
    -Miyamoto Musashi

    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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    • Originally posted by Devildog View Post
      This is hilarious.

      The PAC didn't approach them... they went to the PAC.

      The PAC sits in a sweet position right now. If expansion comes... the PAC's position is far more solid than the Big 12.

      These goggles some of you guys put on crack me up.
      A good position?

      If the Big 12 survives this year it's highly likely the Big East gets raided after WVU goes to the SEC. The the Big 12 adds some Big East teams and the PAC is left at 12 teams with their options being solely MWC teams. I guess being able to add SDSU and UNLV is a solid position
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        A good position?

        If the Big 12 survives this year it's highly likely the Big East gets raided after WVU goes to the SEC. The the Big 12 adds some Big East teams and the PAC is left at 12 teams with their options being solely MWC teams. I guess being able to add SDSU and UNLV is a solid position
        Yeah, the Big 12 is in great shape.
        "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
        -Thucydides

        "Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
        -Miyamoto Musashi

        Si vis pacem, para bellum

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        • Originally posted by Devildog View Post
          Not since they already expanded and signed the best TV deal in college football.
          Best tv deal in football? Didn't Texas just sign a tv deal for 3rd tier rights for 15 million per year in addition to their regular B12 tv deal for 18 or so?

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          • Sorry to digress, but tdawg tweeted this a little while ago.

            What a morning already! Based on texts, calls, and DM's the ball is picking up lots of speed, may make some noise today!
            http://twitter.com/#!/TDAWGCOUG/stat...52777812688896

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            • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
              Best tv deal in football? Didn't Texas just sign a tv deal for 3rd tier rights for 15 million per year in addition to their regular B12 tv deal for 18 or so?
              The PAC's regional networks 3rd tier rights will bring around that number to every member.
              "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
              -Thucydides

              "Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
              -Miyamoto Musashi

              Si vis pacem, para bellum

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              • Originally posted by Devildog View Post
                The PAC's regional networks 3rd tier rights will bring around that number to every member.
                PAC has the best TV deal until the next BCS conference is up for negotiation. That's how it works.

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                • Pac-12 regional networks are not going to give 15 million to each school for showing women's volleyball and soccer, thats a Ute myth.

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                  • Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
                    Pac-12 regional networks are not going to give 15 million to each school for showing women's volleyball and soccer, thats a Ute myth.
                    Maybe... but any other Big 12 school thinking they are going to get the same deal as Texas is too.

                    Thinking UT is ever going to work for anyone else besides Texas... would also appear delusional. They will always put their own interests first.
                    "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
                    -Thucydides

                    "Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
                    -Miyamoto Musashi

                    Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                    • Originally posted by Devildog View Post
                      The PAC's regional networks 3rd tier rights will bring around that number to every member.


                      I can't wait to see who's going to be watching the product from Utah and Colorado 3rd tier rights.
                      "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                      • Originally posted by kccougar View Post


                        I can't wait to see who's going to be watching the product from Utah and Colorado 3rd tier rights.
                        You know how silly these goggles we BYU fans are wearing. Those Ute/PAC12 invincible goggles are awesome.

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                        • Originally posted by kccougar View Post


                          I can't wait to see who's going to be watching the product from Utah and Colorado 3rd tier rights.
                          Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                          You know how silly these goggles we BYU fans are wearing. Those Ute/PAC12 invincible goggles are awesome.
                          You guys may be right... but we are reading about those PAC rights on ESPN... the only place I'm seeing this crap about BYU is on CUF.
                          "We should remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school."
                          -Thucydides

                          "Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
                          -Miyamoto Musashi

                          Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                          • Originally posted by Devildog View Post
                            This is hilarious...The PAC sits in a sweet position right now. If expansion comes... the PAC's position is far more solid than the Big 12.
                            Please fill us in on the PAC's expansion targets after next week..... New Mexico? Colorado State?
                            "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                            • I was at a pre-game Utah gathering last night in which both Chris Hill and Lorris Betz (acting president) said there's no desire among PAC-12 institutions to expand and that Larry Scott feels the same way. FWIW.
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                              • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                                I was at a pre-game Utah gathering last night in which both Chris Hill and Lorris Betz (acting president) said there's no desire among PAC-12 institutions to expand and that Larry Scott feels the same way. FWIW.
                                One thing we've learned over the past year+ is that public statements regarding expansion are largely meaningless. The real debates happen behind the scenes and the situations are very fluid. It's probably true that the PAC has determined they aren't interested in expansion. But that doesn't mean they didn't want the PAC16 last year or take a hard look at Oklahoma this year.

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