The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Blueintheface]

Someone needs to change SU's adult diaper. Rich tapestry indeed.

[LA Ute]

You are more wrong than you are right, but that isn't important now.

I won't say any more of your repeated use, without attribution or thanks, of a fine emoticon that you admit I discovered and brought to this board. Ingreat.

Pretty sure that AA and I are the only Maroons on the board.

Clearly you and AA both failed to see that I was using the term figuratively. Where is the creative vision on this board?

[Uncle Ted]

--signed Orson Scott Card

LOL... Someone has to troll the troll.

[TripletDaddy]

I won't say any more of your repeated use, without attribution or thanks, of a fine emoticon that you admit I discovered and brought to this board. Ingreat.

I was the first poster to respond when you initially used it here.

http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showpo...&postcount=488

[Jarid in Cedar]

SU is treating us to a nice exhibition of logic with this line of reasoning.

Of course, it begs the question: why did the PAC-10 wait so many years to invite Utah? If it was the right choice, why not do it ten years ago?

I will give a serious answer to this question. It required a change in conference leadership. Larry Scott was determined to bring the pac-10 into the 21st century. The pac-10 should have expanded a decade ago. Thankfully they waited until now as I don't know if we would have made the cut in the McBride years

[LA Ute]

I was the first poster to respond when you initially used it here.

http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showpo...&postcount=488

I know, and I appreciated your appreciation of my contribution. But your appreciation has diminished too quickly. Where's the love?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Someone needs to change SU's adult diaper. Rich tapestry indeed.

Lighten up, Francis.

[Devildog]

Man, this thread cracks me up.

CUF has some very intelligent people here, but they are also fans...

Being a fan seems to supersede intelligence.

No matter how smart someone is... it seems incredibly difficult to overcome our biases when the subject is our teams.

I am a solid Ute fan... but I wouldn't bet against BYU's long term success wherever they end up. They have too many smart people and too many resources not to succeed.

I'm just glad this place isn't CB... I can't even stand to look in over there right now.

[UteStar]

CUF has some very intelligent people here...

Thank you.

[Maximus]

Why do I have the feeling that SU would be making a passionate argument like this no matter which BYU-alternate school we were discussing?

I will give a serious answer to this question. It required a change in conference leadership. Larry Scott was determined to bring the pac-10 into the 21st century. The pac-10 should have expanded a decade ago. Thankfully they waited until now as I don't know if we would have made the cut in the McBride years

who else could they have possibly considered? byu is out because of religion....csu? Doubt it. Not much else in this geographic area.

[SeattleUte]

who else could they have possibly considered? byu is out because of religion....csu? Doubt it. Not much else in this geographic area.

Exactly. The fundamental problem was not that the Pac was too backward to consider expansion. The fundamental problem was that the Pac was not happy with the available choices. Conferences expand when they like an available school. Hence, Solon's point (which he was nice enough only to suggest).

[EuropeanFootballMale]

Hence, Solon's point (which he was nice enough only to suggest).

That WAS nice of him. It almost seems like he views niceness as his religion.

[myboynoah]

This Aggie joke is on the Longhorns

School of choice: BYU

The Longhorns will tell you the Aggies are going to get their heads handed to them in the SEC, and maybe they will. But that's part of the challenge.

If you're wondering what's next for the Big 12, that's easy. Brigham Young is the least threatening choice to Texas, and so Brigham Young it's likely to be.

When that happens, it'll re-enforce many of the gripes A&M and Nebraska had about the Big 12.

First, it's a Texas production. As long as there are enough schools thrilled to be satellites of Texas, nothing will change.

That's why TCU won't be getting a call. Neither will SMU or Houston. Those three schools are threats to UT. They've all rebuilt their programs, hired terrific coaches and gotten themselves competitive on the field and off.

And that's the last thing Texas wants.

All three have the potential to cut into UT's recruiting dominance in a way BYU never will.

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Legislators powerless

But there's too much risk to Texas, so the Longhorns may talk up Notre Dame and Arkansas, but they'll end up with BYU.

There are state legislators saying they will press Texas to take SMU and/or Houston. They're wasting their breath. Texas listens to no one.

Besides, whatever Texas decides to do with the Big 12 is only temporary. The conference will be held together by the thinnest of strings.

Texas isn't compelled to do anything to strengthen it - say, make it a 12-team conference - because Texas is bulletproof. When the Big 12 collapses, UT will go independent and leave the others scrambling to find a rung on the ladder.

Texas A&M decided not to wait for that day. When the Big 12 blows up, the Aggies will have the upper hand on Texas. This time, the Aggie joke is on the Longhorns.

[Surfah]

This Aggie joke is on the Longhorns

I read that. I can't believe that's a serious article. TCU, SMU, and Houston are threats to Texas and that's why they're not being considered?

[TripletDaddy]

I read that. I can't believe that's a serious article. TCU, SMU, and Houston are threats to Texas and that's why they're not being considered?

Also, apparently SMU and Houston have rebuilt their programs, hired terrific coaches, and become competitive on the field and off.