The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[UtahDan]

Now that UT has its own network, does a jealous A&M start to stir up some trouble for the Big-12? I would guess UT needs to placate the other teams in the conference to ensure its own viability.

http://www.statesman.com/sports/nine...s_sports_86352

Bumping this thread is the sort of hurtful sarcasm that is going to make enemies out of people.

[LiveCoug]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...56338/27257394

WTH?


Aztecmesa is all over it.. LOL

http://www.aztecmesa.proboards.com/i...ay&thread=9231

[falafel]

http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/e...56338/27257394

WTH?


Aztecmesa is all over it.. LOL

http://www.aztecmesa.proboards.com/i...ay&thread=9231

Asked if the Big 12 , now down to 10 members, had expressed interest in SDSU, Weber said, “I can’t talk about that.”

He did say no other conferences have approached SDSU about membership.

That seems like the kind of comment that would be made to irk the likes of BYU. Those sumbitches!

Edit: Also, it appears that Borg spends more time over there than he does here.

[pellegrino]

That seems like the kind of comment that would be made to irk the likes of BYU. Those sumbitches!

sounds like a stupid comment. Either he lied about no other conferences contacting them , or he lied about not being able to talk about the B12 contacting them.

[falafel]

sounds like a stupid comment. Either he lied about no other conferences contacting them , or he lied about not being able to talk about the B12 contacting them.

He doesn't have to have lied about either. He could simply say no one else has contacted him, and at the same time say that he can't talk about the B12 contacting him (because it hasn't - therefore he can't talk about it).

[LiveCoug]

some Aztecmesaites saying that SDSU and UNLV would be a great combo for the Big 12....

Someone mentions BYU and they are aghast at the thought. Good times.

[falafel]

some Aztecmesaites saying that SDSU and UNLV would be a great combo for the Big 12....

Someone mentions BYU and they are aghast at the thought. Good times.

I read that. Both "SDSU and UNLV will be much better at football in the next decade." I've been hearing that for about a decade already.

[pellegrino]

He doesn't have to have lied about either. He could simply say no one else has contacted him, and at the same time say that he can't talk about the B12 contacting him (because it hasn't - therefore he can't talk about it).

he lied.

[falafel]

he lied.

slanderer.

[pellegrino]

slanderer.

better a slanderer than a liar. He lied.

[falafel]

better a slanderer than a liar. He lied.

I'm still not sure what the lie is. That other conferences DID talk to SDSU? Or that he CAN talk about whether the B12 contacted him?

[pellegrino]

I'm still not sure what the lie is. That other conferences DID talk to SDSU? Or that he CAN talk about whether the B12 contacted him?

[LA Coug]

was BYU to the Big12 all made up by Utah fans who wanted to torture and laugh at BYU fans?

[Paperback Writer]

was BYU to the Big12 all made up by Utah fans who wanted to torture and laugh at BYU fans?

As a long time observers of the Big 8 and then Big 12, here's how I think it played out.

Big Ten and Pac-10 needed to expand in order to play a CCG.
Big Ten's first choice is Notre Dame but will the Irish accept?
Colorado has long wanted to leave the Big 12 so the Buffs are the PAC-10's first choice and they will accept. Utah is a likely second choice.
If Notre Dame joins the Big Ten, BYU will be offered Colorado's spot in the Big 12 and most everyone will be happy. Big Ten is at 12 teams and get their first choice. PAC-10 is at 12 teams and get their top choices. Big 12 is at 12 teams and more than happy to replace Colorado with BYU.

But Notre Dame stays independent. Missouri makes it's case for Big Ten inclusion. This makes Nebraska nervous since 2 of the top 3 teams when it comes to football and market share are lost from the Big 12 North with Colorado to the PAC-10 and Missouri to the Big Ten. Nebraska begins talks with the Big Ten and joins; Missouri declares its allegiance to the Big 12.

The problem is that there is no partner for BYU to take with them into the Big 12.

[LA Ute]

As a long time observers of the Big 8 and then Big 12, here's how I think it played out.

Big Ten and Pac-10 needed to expand in order to play a CCG.
Big Ten's first choice is Notre Dame but will the Irish accept?
Colorado has long wanted to leave the Big 12 so the Buffs are the PAC-10's first choice and they will accept. Utah is a likely second choice.
If Notre Dame joins the Big Ten, BYU will be offered Colorado's spot in the Big 12 and most everyone will be happy. Big Ten is at 12 teams and get their first choice. PAC-10 is at 12 teams and get their top choices. Big 12 is at 12 teams and more than happy to replace Colorado with BYU.

But Notre Dame stays independent. Missouri makes it's case for Big Ten inclusion. This makes Nebraska nervous since 2 of the top 3 teams when it comes to football and market share are lost from the Big 12 North with Colorado to the PAC-10 and Missouri to the Big Ten. Nebraska begins talks with the Big Ten and joins; Missouri declares its allegiance to the Big 12.

The problem is that there is no partner for BYU to take with them into the Big 12.

Sounds like a reasonable summary, although I don't know anything about the Big 12 and BYU. One factoid I can add is that Utah and Colorado went to Larry Scott (Utah was the instigator) first. Those discussions went well, but with no really firm promises made. Then Scott got the grand idea of raiding Texas and others from the Big 12. Great confusion followed. That fizzled, but Colorado (a bigger and better choice than Utah) was in the PAC even before all the hubbub. So Utah, waiting and hoping, then got the nod for the 12th slot. We were the last kid chosen for the stickball game, but happy to be there. I think BYU will be in the Big 12 sooner or later.