The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Uncle Ted]

Academically, the Pac is the most bifurcated conference in the country -- 4 schools in the US News top 25, 1 at 46, 1 at 97, and then 115 and beyond, for an average of 81.75. The Big 12 average is pretty unimpressive at 113.1. BYU would have the second-highest ranking in the conference (62). The ACC (51.2) and Big 10 (57.5) spank the other conferences.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...erences-092012

LOL @ Nebraska (at 101). If it wasn't for Nebraska the Big 10 might be beating the ACC with the average. No wonder they were booted from the AAU.

Maybe the Big 12 should add Rice (# 19), BYU (# 62), SMU (# 58), and Notre Dame (# 16). And get rid of Tech and WV.

[Red Legger]

Berry Tramel now slamming B12 for NOT having CCG.

http://newsok.com/article/5437806?ut...reBar-Facebook


#groundswell

From the KU perspective, the RR/no CCG Big 12 does seem to be an attempt to sell grandpa's old crap at some boutique store in NYC. The RR batters the bottom of the league w/ a 9 game straight gauntlet that squeezes bowl game program building opportunities into a very narrow window. At the same time, it denies the top of the league a resume building CCG and the 9 game slate is killing the home game opportunities in Austin/Norman where they are trying to sell upto 109000 tickets on a perpetual cycle of ISU/KU. Everyone agrees something must be done but nobody knows what to do. Oddly, your old competitor Patterson seems to be one of the biggest do-nothing proponents in the Big12. Pray he gets screwed outta a spot in the playoffs again this year. It's the quickest way to get BYU into the Big12.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

[Uncle Ted]

From the KU perspective, the RR/no CCG Big 12 does seem to be an attempt to self some of grandpa's old crap at some boutique store in NYC. The RR batters the bottom of the league w/ a 9 game straight gauntlet that squeezes bowl game program building opportunities into a very narrow window. At the same time, it denies the top of the league a resume building CCG and the 9 game slate is killing the home game opportunities in Austin/Norman where they are trying to sell upto 109000 tickets on a perpetual cycle of ISU/KU. Everyone agrees something must be done but nobody knows what to do. Oddly, your old competitor Patterson seems to be one of the biggest do-nothing proponents in the Big12. Pray he gets screwed outta a spot in the playoffs again this year. It's the quickest way to get BYU into the Big12.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

I watched the rerun of Patterson pissing away a three TD lead over Baylor on ESPN yesterday. It was as good as the first time I watched it.

[Red Legger]

My perception is that AAU status is increasingly jealously guarded. 4 schools have been admitted since 2000, and they seem like easy calls: A&M, Stony Brook, Boston U, and Ga Tech. At this point, if you're not already in the club, it will take some major effort to get an invite. Nebraska's own conference-mates led the charge in removing its membership. Invitation and 3/4 vote are needed for admission; 2/3 for revocation.

The only positive aspect I've ever noticed from KU's AAU status is that when they kick UNL out it did motivate university bureaucrats and state legislators to get off their arses and do something to protect KU's AAU status. It led to the current building boom along Naismith Drive. By most estimates, we went from being next on the AAU chopping block to about 15th and ahead of both Mizzou and IowaState.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

[Red Legger]

I was watched the rerun of Patterson pissing away a three TD lead over Baylor on ESPN yesterday. It was as good as the first time I watched it.

The only bad thing about that was that Briles was the recipient of the largesse. I could watch the BucktoothedWizard cook up his foul smelling brew year after year w/ fascination afore I'd ever enjoy the crap game Briles/Patterson have brought to the Big12.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

[Paperback Writer]

LOL @ Nebraska (at 101). If it wasn't for Nebraska the Big 10 might be beating the ACC with the average. No wonder they were booted from the AAU.

As for the Big Ten, the author still has Maryland in the ACC and Rutgers in the Big East which even isn't a conference anymore. And knock it off with Nebraska and the AAU. Nebraska deserves derision for not winning a conference championship since 1999 and any number of other reasons like being boring, but they didn't deserve to be booted out of the AAU. By the way, Nebraska is ranked ahead of AAU schools: Oregon, Arizona, and Kansas. But if I were a big proponent of Nebraska academics, I'd never have transferred (they are improving). Watching Nebraska compete for national titles (those were the days) was a great experience. Witnessing one while at BYU was certainly unforeseen.

Maybe the Big 12 should add Rice (# 19), BYU (# 62), SMU (# 58), and Notre Dame (# 16). And get rid of Tech and WV.

If the Big 12 could add Notre Dame and if it finally pulled its head out and added BYU, most everyone on CS would be happy. I'd much rather watch Tech and WV play football than SMU and Rice.

[Paperback Writer]

The only positive aspect I've ever noticed from KU's AAU status is that when they kick UNL out it did motivate university bureaucrats and state legislators to get off their arses and do something to protect KU's AAU status. It led to the current building boom along Naismith Drive. By most estimates, we went from being next on the AAU chopping block to about 15th and ahead of both Mizzou and IowaState.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

I've read that after the ordeal with kicking Nebraska out, the AAU elites were not going to go after anymore schools. Lawrence is a great college town and its good to read that KU is making investments.

[San Juan Sun]

From the KU perspective, the RR/no CCG Big 12 does seem to be an attempt to sell grandpa's old crap at some boutique store in NYC. The RR batters the bottom of the league w/ a 9 game straight gauntlet that squeezes bowl game program building opportunities into a very narrow window. At the same time, it denies the top of the league a resume building CCG and the 9 game slate is killing the home game opportunities in Austin/Norman where they are trying to sell upto 109000 tickets on a perpetual cycle of ISU/KU. Everyone agrees something must be done but nobody knows what to do. Oddly, your old competitor Patterson seems to be one of the biggest do-nothing proponents in the Big12. Pray he gets screwed outta a spot in the playoffs again this year. It's the quickest way to get BYU into the Big12.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

Done and done.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Done and done.

The Big 12 is the worst of the P5s for sure, but if FSU doesn't survive the ACC again and the B12 decides they actually have a champion the 5th best league will get a team in the 4 team playoff.

[TripletDaddy]

The Big 12 is the worst of the P5s for sure, but if FSU doesn't survive the ACC again and the B12 decides they actually have a champion the 5th best league will get a team in the 4 team playoff.

Im not so sure. If they are willing to consider a B12 team that has not provided the "13th data point," why not take a second school from the b1g, pac, or sec? I can actually see that happening. Also, Whomever wins the ACC is going to do so playing a ranked opponent in a CCG on the final weekend. Almost all teams in the b12 won't even be playing that weekend. You could very well be right but I'm still not sure

[lambdacoug]

The Big 12 is the worst of the P5s for sure, but if FSU doesn't survive the ACC again and the B12 decides they actually have a champion the 5th best league will get a team in the 4 team playoff.

Yet, the two teams that left, went to the SEC and have been quite successful. Not much should be inferred from that, but it is interesting. I think a lot of people thought that it'd take some time for the two Big 12 teams to adjust to the tough SEC schedule. Mizzou was not the cream of the crop in the Big 12, either...

[Omaha 680]

Yet, the two teams that left, went to the SEC and have been quite successful. Not much should be inferred from that, but it is interesting. I think a lot of people thought that it'd take some time for the two Big 12 teams to adjust to the tough SEC schedule. Mizzou was not the cream of the crop in the Big 12, either...

Here's my opinion: Most of the time the past decade the SEC has had the best team and maybe 2 of the top 3 teams in the country. But the top to bottom strength of the conference relative to the other P5s has been overstated.

[Uncle Ted]

Yet, the two teams that left, went to the SEC and have been quite successful. Not much should be inferred from that, but it is interesting. I think a lot of people thought that it'd take some time for the two Big 12 teams to adjust to the tough SEC schedule. Mizzou was not the cream of the crop in the Big 12, either...

And Colorado has made a huge impact in the... ah, nevermind.

[Joe Public]

The Big 12 is the worst of the P5s for sure, but if FSU doesn't survive the ACC again and the B12 decides they actually have a champion the 5th best league will get a team in the 4 team playoff.

I think Clemson could get in if things go the right way for them.

[TripletDaddy]

Texas needs to stop sucking before the b12 can expand

http://saturdayblitz.com/2015/08/03/...xpansion-plan/