The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Flystripper]

Berry Tramel makes the case for BYU

http://newsok.com/tramel-the-big-12-...438621/?page=2

probably the most favorable article written about BYU and conference expansion basically since all of this started years ago. He tackles most of the main tropes and stereotypes and does so more effectively than anything BYu has ever released (to the extent BYU has released anything).

None of the info is news to BYU fans but it is finally being said by local B12 media. And no coincidence that this is from an Oklahoma writer. Boren is forcing the issue now using all his available assets.

wow he totally nailed it

[YOhio]

wow he totally nailed it

I agree.

[Bo Diddley]

* Boise State and BYU have a history of playing on Thursday or Friday night. This year alone, Boise State has three non-Saturday games and BYU has two. That would relieve pressure from the Big 12, which is contracted to provide four Thursday night games a year to ESPN or FOX, even though most schools don’t like hosting on Thursday and OU absolutely won’t host on Thursday.

I think these are some of the concessions BYU would have to make. This and more of the night games they talked about. But we'd get good national exposure.

[Joe Public]

Is this the "Boise State makes Louisville look like Oxford" article?

[jay santos]

The article started strong, but then ended outlining the Sunday play issues without adequately answering them, and then saying "but we're desperate, so let's just do it."

[Omaha 680]

I thought the part about using games in the Mountain Time Zone to bust the Pac 12's late night monopoly was a great point I hadn't really thought about.

[Surfah]

The article started strong, but then ended outlining the Sunday play issues without adequately answering them, and then saying "but we're desperate, so let's just do it."

Sunday play is a non starter. Shift everything to Friday-Saturday for series with BYU. Big whoop. The conference championships are bigger deal, but like he suggested, schedule it so the championship is Saturday, or keep it on Sunday with the caveat that it shifts to Monday if BYU makes the final. NBD.

[Surfah]

I thought the part about using games in the Mountain Time Zone to bust the Pac 12's late night monopoly was a great point I hadn't really thought about.

I had the exact same thought. That was an argument I had never considered but makes a lot of sense.

[jay santos]

Sunday play is a non starter. Shift everything to Friday-Saturday for series with BYU. Big whoop. The conference championships are bigger deal, but like he suggested, schedule it so the championship is Saturday, or keep it on Sunday with the caveat that it shifts to Monday if BYU makes the final. NBD.

NBD to change a championship game from Sunday to Monday one day in advance?

[pellegrino]

NBD to change a championship game from Sunday to Monday one day in advance?

why is it such a big deal? Did the arena suddenly become unavailable?

[Omaha 680]

NBD to change a championship game from Sunday to Monday one day in advance?

It's a bigger deal than Surfah is saying but not that big of a deal. Most of those championships are not heavily attended. Men's basketball ends on Saturday, right? The only one with a major issue would be Women's basketball which the author mentioned.

[jay santos]

I had the exact same thought. That was an argument I had never considered but makes a lot of sense.

The other point the article makes that I just want beat people over the head with that don't get it, is that it doesn't really matter how big the market is, it matters how good the team is. Philadelphia is a lot bigger market than Boise, but bringing Temple to your conference does not mean Philadelphia will start watching Big 12.

[Omaha 680]

If the Big 12 invited Boise, they'd tell them to scrap the clown carpet right?

[Jeff Lebowski]

If the Big 12 invited Boise, they'd tell them to scrap the clown carpet right?

We can only hope.

[TripletDaddy]

Tramel not done with BYU yet: now he tackles the "football only" myth

http://m.newsok.com/byu-boise-state-...medium=twitter

I’m now on record. Brigham Young and Boise State for Big 12 expansion. I wrote about it for the Friday Oklahoman, which you can read here....

...The Big 12 does not need to stop the bleeding. The Big 12 needs a cure. I believe BYU and Boise State could be that cure. But only as full-fledged members.

someone send Berry tramel one of those BYU 50 boxes or at least a t shirt or something.

#groundswell

#Boren