The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[falafel]

You'll probably find thousands of posts here and on CB making that claim. Viking alone probalby has a hundred.

That entire body law has been overturned.

[Jeff Lebowski]

lol I thought they did and you turned them down, because independence is so groovy.

You'll probably find thousands of posts here and on CB making that claim. Viking alone probalby has a hundred.

I remember when SU used to be skilled at trolling.

[pellegrino]

I remember when SU used to be skilled at trolling.

and JIC had a heart

[The_Douger]

I remember when SU used to be skilled at trolling.

Ya, he's lost the edge.

[Omaha 680]

Bad link!

It's a puzzle. I cracked the code. I'll give you bottom line: Florida State will probably go to the Big 12 if the ACC crumbles.

[Moliere]

It's a puzzle. I cracked the code. I'll give you bottom line: Florida State will probably go to the Big 12 if the ACC crumbles.

I'm wondering if the ACC isn't stronger after the loss of Maryland and the addition of L'ville. I really don't know, but Louisville is stronger in both football and basketball. Maybe the Maryland market is bigger, but it sits near some major NFL teams. Do people (not just students or boosters) really care about Maryland U sports?

Maybe this is a silver lining for BYU in that the southern ACC schools might spurn any Big 12 overtures since their conference is actually stronger from a football perspective. I can't imagine they'd be more pumped to play Baylor or Iowa State over Duke or Boston College. The Big 12 is then left to either poach more Big East schools (UConn or Cincinnati) or come west and pick up BYU and one other school (Air Force or ???).

Wishful thinking, I know, and not very skeptic of me, but when it comes to BYU I'm partial.

[Goatnapper'96]

I'm wondering if the ACC isn't stronger after the loss of Maryland and the addition of L'ville. I really don't know, but Louisville is stronger in both football and basketball. Maybe the Maryland market is bigger, but it sits near some major NFL teams. Do people (not just students or boosters) really care about Maryland U sports?

Maybe this is a silver lining for BYU in that the southern ACC schools might spurn any Big 12 overtures since their conference is actually stronger from a football perspective. I can't imagine they'd be more pumped to play Baylor or Iowa State over Duke or Boston College. The Big 12 is then left to either poach more Big East schools (UConn or Cincinnati) or come west and pick up BYU and one other school (Air Force or ???).

Wishful thinking, I know, and not very skeptic of me, but when it comes to BYU I'm partial.

BYU and Boise State and my interest in BYU football would be restored to its perfect state every jot and tittle and even down to the last lost hairs of my head!

[YOhio]

[Goatnapper'96]

Why is the flag up? Doesn't the mailman lower it when he takes the outgoing mail away? Or is the point BYU is not really asking although they want the mailman, which symbolizes us, to think they are asking when they are really not? If the point is the mailbox is empty then shouldn't the flag be down?

FTR, I get my mail via a PO Box and have for 11.5 years so my most recent experience with how most of the US gets its mail is from reading Isaacson's biography of Ben Franklin.

[Green Monstah]

Why won't these assholes just invite us.

Because we don't play nice; because we're a pain in the ass scheduling-wise; because our administration wants to be independent; because we come with religious baggage.

[Green Monstah]

I'm wondering if the ACC isn't stronger after the loss of Maryland and the addition of L'ville. I really don't know, but Louisville is stronger in both football and basketball. Maybe the Maryland market is bigger, but it sits near some major NFL teams. Do people (not just students or boosters) really care about Maryland U sports?

Maybe this is a silver lining for BYU in that the southern ACC schools might spurn any Big 12 overtures since their conference is actually stronger from a football perspective. I can't imagine they'd be more pumped to play Baylor or Iowa State over Duke or Boston College. The Big 12 is then left to either poach more Big East schools (UConn or Cincinnati) or come west and pick up BYU and one other school (Air Force or ???).

Wishful thinking, I know, and not very skeptic of me, but when it comes to BYU I'm partial.

It absolutely is. It now has incredible basketball schools (many of which are not premiere football schools), and football schools with great tradition/history (many of which do not have storied basketball programs). IMO, this sort of diversity makes them extremely solid. Of the BCS conferences, the B12 is looking more and more like the sick calf who is about to be devoured by the other Big 4. People will rant about TV rights, etc., but I'm not buying it. There's always a way out.

[Scratch]

I'm wondering if the ACC isn't stronger after the loss of Maryland and the addition of L'ville.

Depends on what you're talking about. It is definitely stronger athletically, but overall as a conference it is weaker. Compared to Maryland, Louisville is an inferior school in a smaller market. There's a reason the B12 hasn't added Louisville, and also a reason the B1G targeted Maryland and Rutgers rather than someone like Louisville.

[The_Douger]

Because we don't play nice; because we're a pain in the ass scheduling-wise; because our administration wants to be independent; because we come with religious baggage.

I just hate this. And I think it's true.

I wish I could go back and like some other team. I'm so tired of our weirdness.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I just hate this. And I think it's true.

I wish I could go back and like some other team. I'm so tired of our weirdness.

lol. You poor thing.

Goatnapper, can you give this kid a little encouragement?

[The_Douger]

lol. You poor thing.

Goatnapper, can you give this kid a little encouragement?

Haha.

Seriously, I am hopeless with this stuff.

I hate our weirdness.