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  • Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
    This isn't a BYU thread. This is a thread about Big 12 expansion and it is clear that BYU is not involved.

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    • Originally posted by Flattop View Post
      I figure I still haven't been here long enough to call anyone a vomitous mass.
      Save that for SU. He not only appreciates it, he endores' it.

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      • Originally posted by Rickomatic View Post
        Save that for SU. He not only appreciates it, he endores' it.
        Actually, SU is well beyond miserable vomitus masshood. He's moved on to Rodent of Unusual Size status.
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


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        • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
          Actually, SU is well beyond miserable vomitus masshood. He's moved on to Rodent of Unusual Size status.
          Wow. You Ute fans have a lot of love for each other.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • OB'er:

            Hey Chip any truth to these rumors:

            First that OU and Texas really were pushing for BYU but the rest of the schools didn't want them because of BYUtv and wanted a school that could help them get a Big 12 network started since OU and Texas have/will have their own networks. So the Big 12 went TCU and then WVU instead. But there is also the deal about Fox and replay rights. Or was it both?

            Second that a majority was in favor of inviting both Louisville and West Virginia but a call from the TV execs reminded them they were contracted for only 10 schools next year so the Big 12 had to pick one or the other. That might explain the sudden 180 on that one.
            Chip Brown:

            There's more to it than that, but there's a little truth in both of those. Those things were part of the overall picture.
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
              OB'er:



              Chip Brown:
              IOW: 'I don't know, I just know what Texas allows me to know and I make up the rest.'
              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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              • How and why would BYU impede a B12 network?

                The Fox rebroadcast issue is annoying.
                Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                  How and why would BYU impede a B12 network?

                  The Fox rebroadcast issue is annoying.
                  They would be lowering the available programming because they wouldn't want to have their tier 3 games on the B12 network and have them on BYUtv like OU/Texas. And Sunday play becomes a bigger deal when you have a dedicated conference network that wants more sunday sports coverage.

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                  • A Louisville perspective. The writer expects more movement in the Spring.

                    The comments section has some entertaining back and forth between hillbillies in WV and Kentucky. I've never been to Morgantown but have been to WV many times. That roady to Morgantown doesn't sound fun.

                    Why Louisville is stuck in the Big East
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                      A Louisville perspective. The writer expects more movement in the Spring.

                      The comments section has some entertaining back and forth between hillbillies in WV and Kentucky. I've never been to Morgantown but have been to WV many times. That roady to Morgantown doesn't sound fun.

                      Why Louisville is stuck in the Big East
                      This sounds a lot like how things progressed and then stalled with BYU, too.

                      Interesting lesson to be learned from BYU, WVU, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse....the cautious get left behind on a sinking ship. Those that JUMP when offered get to climb aboard the life raft.
                      Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                      • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        This sounds a lot like how things progressed and then stalled with BYU, too.

                        Interesting lesson to be learned from BYU, WVU, Louisville, Pitt, Syracuse....the cautious get left behind on a sinking ship. Those that JUMP when offered get to climb aboard the life raft.
                        BYU was offered? Link?
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • At this point, BYU has 5 options:

                          1. Stay Indy (Meh)
                          2. Get a Big 12 invite (best possible option, especially in nearer term)
                          3. Hope for a seat at the table when mega-conferences happen (longer term)
                          4. Merge with Big East (not perfect, but can probably happen pretty easily)
                          5. Crawl back to MWC/WAC and whatever crazy 38 team conference they form. (Gag me)
                          "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                          - Ty Cobb

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                          • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            BYU was offered? Link?
                            Wait a minute. Are you now saying you DON'T think BYU was offered a Big 12 spot? Make up your mind already.

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                            • Originally posted by EuropeanFootballMale View Post
                              Wait a minute. Are you now saying you DON'T think BYU was offered a Big 12 spot? Make up your mind already.
                              Totally I've said all along BYU wasn't offered a Big 12 spot. It's cost me friendships here and made Viking attack me with a cleaver. I'm quite sure BYU was never offered. You aren't?
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                Totally I've said all along BYU wasn't offered a Big 12 spot. It's cost me friendships here and made Viking attack me with a cleaver. I'm quite sure BYU was never offered. You aren't?
                                True, you've been persecuted for your sincere expressions of belief and that's just not right!

                                You'd think Mormons would know better. I'm still your friend, but I'm not the typical Mormon.
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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