The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Omaha 680]

I think those assuming that attendance would drop after losses in the Big 12 could be underestimating this current generation of BYU fans. Bronco himself was surprised last year at the crowd that continued to show up for games even after starting the season 1-4.

Yes, but the current generation of fans also booed their team once. It may have happened 6 years ago, but it's effects are still felt.

[Scorcho]

For all of Harmon's connections, they yield his readers nothing.

that's simply not true.

I learned from Dick Harmon that Boulder, Colorado was part of the Axis of Evil and the epi-center for Anti-Mormonism.

[mr_thekid]

And some of them have booed Jake Heaps this year. We definitely don't have the most intelligent fan base, but I think the attendance might not drop as drastically as some here are assuming.

Edit-this is a response to Omaha.

[Jacob]

On Sunday, no less!

Thanks for outing our football coach, Harmon. See if Bronco ever let's you into the inner circle again.

By talking about warming them up, I think it's safe to assume he buys them earlier in the week and reheats them for Sunday dinner :thumbsup:

Yeah. I thought that was obvious. Reading comprehension fail.

[Goatnapper'96]

I don't get what you, Goat, and kc see that I'm not seeing that makes you think BYU goes to the Big 12. In my mind, the evidence is mounting they have no intention to do so under terms acceptable to the Big 12.

Wilner Agrees



I would love to believe that we have some master plan to try to make the Big 12 work, but it doesn't look that way. The anger has subsided but the confusion and extreme disappointment are still there for me. What are we doing?

I believe that the Big 12 and BYU were in negotiations and I am not convinced that has really stopped. I think BYU is good about keeping it quiet. The Big 12 has to add two more teams in they want to expand, which I think they do, and 3 more if Mizzou bolts. When that time comes I believe BYU to the Big-12 makes the most sense. I don't really believe BYU is playing as hard to get as they make out just that I don't think Wilner really knows what is going on as much as many other think he does. In fact I tend to align with Triple D that nobody really knows. Hence, I am left with my logic that leaves the Big-12 looking for two-three schools and that I think BYU is the best fit out there.

Just remember my knees never buckled.

[Jacob]

I believe that the Big 12 and BYU were in negotiations and I am not convinced that has really stopped. I think BYU is good about keeping it quiet. The Big 12 has to add two more teams in they want to expand, which I think they do, and 3 more if Mizzou bolts. When that time comes I believe BYU to the Big-12 makes the most sense. I don't really believe BYU is playing as hard to get as they make out just that I don't think Wilner really knows what is going on as much as many other think he does. In fact I tend to align with Triple D that nobody really knows. Hence, I am left with my logic that leaves the Big-12 looking for two-three schools and that I think BYU is the best fit out there.

Just remember my knees never buckled.

I think you are clearly right that Wilner doesn't know.
But you are probably wrong to believe that BYU makes the most sense. I presume you thought that before the B12 invited TCU? Me too.

[falafel]

Yeah. It thought that was obvious. Reading comprehension fail.

It did?

I believe there is plenty of room for interpretation. Have you ever picked up ribs to go? They cool down very fast. Unless you live across the street from the mexican rib place, odds are they will not be too warm when you get them home and you're going to have to warm them up.

[mr_thekid]

I believe that the Big 12 and BYU were in negotiations and I am not convinced that has really stopped. I think BYU is good about keeping it quiet. The Big 12 has to add two more teams in they want to expand, which I think they do, and 3 more if Mizzou bolts. When that time comes I believe BYU to the Big-12 makes the most sense. I don't really believe BYU is playing as hard to get as they make out just that I don't think Wilner really knows what is going on as much as many other think he does. In fact I tend to align with Triple D that nobody really knows. Hence, I am left with my logic that leaves the Big-12 looking for two-three schools and that I think BYU is the best fit out there.

I think it's still a very real possibility. For all we know the negotiations could be ongoing or Cecil could be laughing at all of us from some back room as was suggested the other day. But I'm done hoping. If an invite ever comes our way I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[wally]

BYU will be in the B12 by July of 2018. Mark it down.

[Goatnapper'96]

I think you are clearly right that Wilner doesn't know.
But you are probably wrong to believe that BYU makes the most sense. I presume you thought that before the B12 invited TCU? Me too.

I think I long advocated TCU to the Big 12. I referenced the SWC days.

[Jacob]

It did?

I believe there is plenty of room for interpretation. Have you ever picked up ribs to go? They cool down very fast. Unless you live across the street from the mexican rib place, odds are they will not be too warm when you get them home and you're going to have to warm them up.

I suppose I was just inserting my own biases in to my interpretation. Maybe it was only obvious to me. And maybe I'm wrong.

[Jacob]

I think I long advocated TCU to the Big 12. I referenced the SWC days.

Well...if you were right then...I'm all aboard your wagon!

[WashingtonCoug]

BYU will be in the B12 by July of 2018. Mark it down.

Unfortunately by then it will be the MWC v2.0 after OU, Texas and OSU leave.

[Scorcho]

maybe the Big XII is simply waiting for that 2012 Mayan Calendar thing to play out

[lambdacoug]

maybe the Big XII is simply waiting for that 2012 Mayan Calendar thing to play out

Maybe the Mayans were referring to conference realignment armegeddon...