The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Blueintheface]

Wow. Surely you all realized DDD was speaking sarcastically? or is that ironically? I never know.

Anyway, BITF why attack Bronco merely because he doesn't want to tape the show on Sunday? He's hardly acting Pharisaical about it.

Because he's a horse's ass? He beats the teams he's supposed to so I guess it doesn't matter.

[Jacob]

Let's stay on point: BYU in the Big 12.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Agreed. Sorry for contributing. Back on track:

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
The Big 12 grant of rights, when agreed to, will be for "at least six years." A message to BYU and others: "We're not dysfunctional."

Glad to say he (and his sources) are putting BYU on the top (only member?) of that list.

[Green Monstah]

Agreed. Sorry for contributing. Back on track:



Glad to say he (and his sources) are putting BYU on the top (only member?) of that list.

Agreed.

[Viking]

I'm having a very difficult time containing my excitement here.

It was so depressing a few weeks ago, in the wake of OU, when it was clear that BYU was not interested.

This move by Texas basically creates a league as stable as the Pac12, from a "cultural" perspective (culture=money) and that's a great sign for BYU.

Dr. Samuelson, Tom, nice work. Great job. My pocketbook is coming out.

[Coach McGuirk]

It was so depressing a few weeks ago, in the wake of OU, when it was clear that BYU was not interested.

This was never, ever, true.

[TripletDaddy]

BYU will sign this agreement as well as part of its acceptance.

If BYU comes in as football only for 2 seasons, there will be no equal share for BYU in those 2 seasons.

[Viking]

This was never, ever, true.

I don't know from BYU's side because I never spoke with anyone there, but from the great state of Texas, that's what the message was.

[Goatnapper'96]

I'm having a very difficult time containing my excitement here.

It was so depressing a few weeks ago, in the wake of OU, when it was clear that BYU was not interested.

This move by Texas basically creates a league as stable as the Pac12, from a "cultural" perspective (culture=money) and that's a great sign for BYU.

Dr. Samuelson, Tom, nice work. Great job. My pocketbook is coming out.

BYU was not interested. I know nobody important on God's green earth but I know how utterly absurd that comment is. I think you know a lot less important people than you want others to think you know. BYU was interested and going to the Big 12 as soon as Mork'n'Mindy U bolted with the U to the Pac. It was inevitable then and it still is. But if it gets you and our other resident Big Spendah, BYU'71, to keep donating, good on 'em! I give you both permission and God's promises that donations to BYU will suffice for any tithing you are not paying!

But you, my friend, are of infinite worth! B

[Viking]

BYU was not interested. I know nobody important on God's green earth but I know how utterly absurd that comment is. I think you know a lot less important people than you want others to think you know. BYU was interested and going to the Big 12 as soon as Mork'n'Mindy U bolted with the U to the Pac. It was inevitable then and it still is. But if it gets you and our other resident Big Spendah, BYU'71, to keep donating, good on 'em! I give you both permission and God's promises that donations to BYU will suffice for any tithing you are not paying!

But you, my friend, are of infinite worth! B

See above. I really have no idea if BYU (read: Samuelson) was serious about staying independent. But I can tell you that the other side was getting nothing but that message.

[Goatnapper'96]

I don't know from BYU's side because I never spoke with anyone there, but from the great state of Texas, that's what the message was.

On occassion the folks out there have been reported to have a bit of a self-inflated sense of self worth - not that present company might reinforce that stereotype. It could have been BYU did not want the current Big 12 arrangement and believed its position was strong enough to add to the tidal wave of discontent that might change the Big 12 arrangement to something more acceptable to those outside the Lone Star State. That is not to say I think BYU was the straw that stirred the drink, but that its position along with others forced Texas and OU to reevaluate their situation and recognize their mutual need for each other and the Big 12.

[Goatnapper'96]

See above. I really have no idea if BYU (read: Samuelson) was serious about staying independent. But I can tell you that the other side was getting nothing but that message.

I think your other side might gets its info from Twitter. I doubt anyone real close to the negotiations would have gotten that opinion. My guess is BYU was upfront that they were serious about improving their situation and the current situation of the Big 12 was so unstable that BYU did not view that as an improvement, but I think BYU believed that the Big 12 would sort itself out as OU and Texas had no where else to really go.

[Goatnapper'96]

If BYU comes in as football only for 2 seasons, there will be no equal share for BYU in those 2 seasons.

But much better home football games for BYU's program to be exposed! It could be the year that one day we all remember that change was forced upon a culture slightly resistant to change!

NO LONGER AS STRANGERS ON EARTH NEED WE ROAM!

[byu71]

I have kinda gotten lost. Are we now for sure joining the BIG12. I have lost track of who really has good info. and who doesn't.

[TripletDaddy]

I have kinda gotten lost. Are we now for sure joining the BIG12. I have lost track of who really has good info. and who doesn't.

Today's latest is a press conference on Wed. The same person that said the press conference would be last friday at 6:15 or Saturday at 12:15.

So to answer your two questions above...."nobody" and "everybody."

[Goatnapper'96]

Today's latest is a press conference on Wed. The same person that said the press conference would be last friday at 6:15 or Saturday at 12:15.

So to answer your two questions above...."nobody" and "everybody."

I thought the official release that stated the existing members had reached a verbal agreement of revenue sharing for the next six years was a legitimate different development and very positive towards the endstate of BYU in the Big-12, the rest were tweets and unnamed sources making the same wild asses conclusions/predictions we have seen for weeks.