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  • Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
    The showdown over the LHN begins.



    http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foo...xas-tv-network

    The threat of that apparently led to this:



    http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/col...ow-on-hold.ece

    I was convinced the Big-12 was safe for the foreseeable future. It isn't.
    I think when all is said and done the NCAA will rule it a recruiting violation to broadcast games of recruits on their own network. This is going to cause to much of a stir across college football. Of course this is going to be piss off OU and A&M but those are the only big-time programs Texas recruits against. LSU, Arkansas and many other big programs out there are going head to head against Texas on recruits. Texas doesn't just recruit against teams in the Big 12.
    "Take it to the Bank"

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    • Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
      I think when all is said and done the NCAA will rule it a recruiting violation to broadcast games of recruits on their own network. This is going to cause to much of a stir across college football. Of course this is going to be piss off OU and A&M but those are the only big-time programs Texas recruits against. LSU, Arkansas and many other big programs out there are going head to head against Texas on recruits. Texas doesn't just recruit against teams in the Big 12.
      Why would it piss off OU and A&M if they rule it a recruiting violation? If it is a violation, they would have to stop or face sanctions... no?

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      • Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
        Why would it piss off OU and A&M if they rule it a recruiting violation? If it is a violation, they would have to stop or face sanctions... no?
        I didn't word that correctly. Broadcasting their recruits games will piss a ton of people off. Because of this, they will complain to the NCAA and when all is said and done I believe the NCAA will rule broadcasting games on their network a recruiting violation. Then, nobody will be pissed about that. They will find other reasons to be upset though.
        "Take it to the Bank"

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        • Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
          I didn't word that correctly. Broadcasting their recruits games will piss a ton of people off. Because of this, they will complain to the NCAA and when all is said and done I believe the NCAA will rule broadcasting games on their network a recruiting violation. Then, nobody will be pissed about that. They will find other reasons to be upset though.
          Gotcha. I agree with your statement though. If UT is broadcasting games of recruits in Texas (or anywhere in the country, for that matter) that is not going to sit well with any other school competing with Texas for recruits as it is a huge competitive advantage. Granted, there is nothing stopping other schools from creating a similar network. Except, cost and interest, of course.

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          • http://www.kcbd.com/story/15122819/t...-of-conference

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            • Originally posted by Babs View Post
              Sports radio here is saying that the SEC wants A&M in order to improve its academic cred. The radio commentators say that A&M would become the "flagship research institution" of the SEC. lol! I love Texas!
              I hope the "lol" isn't a jab at the academics of A&M and that the burnt orange isn't rubbing off on y'all. Texas A&M would greatly improve the academic profile of the SEC and more so than another fine Big 12 institution that also wears maroon/crimson and is rumored to be interested in the SEC. However, Vanderbilt (like Flystripper mentioned) would have to be considered the "flagship institution" in the SEC in regard to academics. I'm sure you know this, but the academics (or lack thereof) of the SEC is the main reason why UT won't consider joining.

              If your'e "lol" was in regard to wanting A&M just because of academics, I apologize. It's all about football in the SEC and academics is a nice fringe benefit. If the SEC really wanted to improve their academic profile, they would invite Rice.
              “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
              "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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              • I saw this on another board, but I thought it was interesting.

                I wonder if the commisioners of the ACC, Big10, PAC12, SEC won't get together and do what the PAC12 has done regarding scheduling OOC games outside of the first month of the season.

                If all of them adopt such a policy, it would seem that Texas would be much less excited about going it alone. The first month of their schedule could be nice, but then they'd be playing Sun Belt, WAC, MWC, CUSA schools for the rest of the season. I suppose they'd get the service academies, BYU and ND, too.

                Not sure Texas fans would love that. Nor would recruits.

                Who knows.

                Anyway, it would seem that that conferences could really put a pinch on a school like Texas going independent IF they all get together to make scheduling tough.

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                • Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                  I saw this on another board, but I thought it was interesting.

                  I wonder if the commisioners of the ACC, Big10, PAC12, SEC won't get together and do what the PAC12 has done regarding scheduling OOC games outside of the first month of the season.

                  If all of them adopt such a policy, it would seem that Texas would be much less excited about going it alone. The first month of their schedule could be nice, but then they'd be playing Sun Belt, WAC, MWC, CUSA schools for the rest of the season. I suppose they'd get the service academies, BYU and ND, too.

                  Not sure Texas fans would love that. Nor would recruits.

                  Who knows.

                  Anyway, it would seem that that conferences could really put a pinch on a school like Texas going independent IF they all get together to make scheduling tough.
                  Perhaps with other schools, but not with kingpins like Texas and Notre Dame. The PAC-12 already apparently gives USC an exemption when they play Notre Dame.

                  Texas will always have OU and A&M on the schedule regardless of conference affiliation and Texas-OU will continue to be played in Dallas in Oct. around the Texas State Fair. I don't think that schools that rely on Texas recruiting would support those OOC scheduling restrictions or at least seek a loophole for the Longhorns. As stated earlier, Notre Dame and BYU could be scheduled in Oct./Nov. And other significant programs like Texas Tech and OK St. will schedule Texas any date the Longhorns request them to. Even midwest teams like Missouri have their hands deep into Texas recruiting and would probably jump at the chance to keep playing the Longhorns or petition their new conferences to play them in November if that's the only time they can get on the Longhorn schedule.
                  “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                  "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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                  • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                    Perhaps with other schools, but not with kingpins like Texas and Notre Dame. The PAC-12 already apparently gives USC an exemption when they play Notre Dame.

                    Texas will always have OU and A&M on the schedule regardless of conference affiliation and Texas-OU will continue to be played in Dallas in Oct. around the Texas State Fair. I don't think that schools that rely on Texas recruiting would support those OOC scheduling restrictions or at least seek a loophole for the Longhorns. As stated earlier, Notre Dame and BYU could be scheduled in Oct./Nov. And other significant programs like Texas Tech and OK St. will schedule Texas any date the Longhorns request them to. Even midwest teams like Missouri have their hands deep into Texas recruiting and would probably jump at the chance to keep playing the Longhorns or petition their new conferences to play them in November if that's the only time they can get on the Longhorn schedule.
                    why wouldnt those schools just schedule other texas teams especially, rice, tcu houston and smu? they still play in texas but now they have more chances to win and they can play in dallas and houston
                    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                    • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                      why wouldnt those schools just schedule other texas teams especially, rice, tcu houston and smu? they still play in texas but now they have more chances to win and they can play in dallas and houston

                      Do people really believe you get the exposure from playing Rice that you get from playing Texas?

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                      • Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                        Do people really believe you get the exposure from playing Rice that you get from playing Texas?
                        what exposure? you are playing in texas so you can have recruits come to the game. Schedule games in reliant stadium, jerry world and even the alamo dome.
                        "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                        "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                        • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                          ... would greatly improve the academic profile of the SEC...
                          To borrow on an old Missouri joke -

                          If Oklahoma were to leave the Big XII for the SEC, the academic profiles of BOTH conferences would improve markedly...

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                          • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                            what exposure? you are playing in texas so you can have recruits come to the game. Schedule games in reliant stadium, jerry world and even the alamo dome.
                            Yup. A game every other year deep in the heart of the Metroplex - the biggest/densest football recruiting area of the country.

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                            • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                              what exposure? you are playing in texas so you can have recruits come to the game. Schedule games in reliant stadium, jerry world and even the alamo dome.

                              I think Jerry World learned it's lesson from TCU.

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                              • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                                what exposure? you are playing in texas so you can have recruits come to the game. Schedule games in reliant stadium, jerry world and even the alamo dome.
                                No love for North Texas? SMU, TCU, Rice, and Houston can't even sell out there own stadiums let alone Cowboy Stadium or Reliant. It's like a team from the midwest thinking they are going to break into Utah recruiting by playing Utah St. There will be little media attention and few will show up because nobody cares. So telling a Texas recruit that SMU or Houston is on the schedule will get a coach no where. Telling a recruit that he will be playing the Longhorns or Aggies will get his attention (because that's who he really wants to play for).
                                “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                                "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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