The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Moliere]

Yeah, that's the way I read it too.

I think it went down more like this:

Boren: Hey, so, like, we're totally nice and kick ass and stuff, even if we are kinda stupid; can we come be part of your nice conference club thing? Our club is dumb and has a bully. Oh, and can my dumb little brother come too?

Scott: Well, we kind of filled our need last year, thanks, but I'll ask.

<several hours later>

Scott: Yeah, so, the rest of the gang thinks you are dumb, so no.

Boren: Yeah, well, we didn't want to come into your stupid club anyway, so we won't file that application we had ready. Our club is cooler than yours anyway, or will be as soon as we punch out the bully.

[SeattleUte]

wtf do they want tcu for. they dont add tv sets, fans, money, or a new market.

Maybe right now a higher priorty than footprint is product and branding.

[Top Ute]

Also, back to Boren, if you graduate in the Top 1% of your class at Yale, are elected to Phi Beta Kappa, and are a Rhodes scholar, why in the hell would you get your law degree at the University of Oklahoma? I realize this was 1968, but really?

To position himself to satisfy his future political ambitions? He's a former governor and U.S. Senator, after all. I'm just guessing here.

[Pheidippides]

To position himself to satisfy his future political ambitions? He's a former governor and U.S. Senator, after all. I'm just guessing here.

That's the only reason I can think of.

[LA Ute]

That's the only reason I can think of.

It could be something as simple as his family running out of money. In those days that happened more than it does now.

Then again, he appears to come from privilege, and his Wikipedia bio sure does read like a guy whose life ambition was to be an Oklahoma politician.

The Boren family has a strong interest in public policy and three generations of public service. His father, Lyle Boren, served in the U.S. House of Representatives (OK-04) from 1937 to 1947. His son, Dan Boren, has served in the U.S. House of Representatives (OK-02) since 2005.

[PolyCougar]

So if the latest rumor holds true, and BYU is prepared to move all sports to the Big 12 next year if it happens. That'll mean that 3 Conferences (WAC, MWC, and WCC) will be eternally pissed at us with one (PAC-12) that just hates us. I think we've got the entire west covered now... didn't Brigham lead the saints West to get away from the hate?

And now it looks like we could be going back to Missouri with open arms...

...Porter Rockwell has to be rolling in his grave.

[Coach McGuirk]

So if the latest rumor holds true, and BYU is prepared to move all sports to the Big 12 next year if it happens. That'll mean that 3 Conferences (WAC, MWC, and WCC) will be eternally pissed at us with one (PAC-12) that just hates us. I think we've got the entire west covered now... didn't Brigham lead the saints West to get away from the hate?

And now it looks like we could be going back to Missouri with open arms... Porter Rockwell has to be rolling in his grave.

had to return to Mizzou at some point.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Did I read his statement correctly? Did he, in essence, say "we didn't really apply for the PAC, I just called them to let them know that the B12 was working together to improve."

Yep. Dumbest press release ever.

[Jeff Lebowski]

So if the latest rumor holds true, and BYU is prepared to move all sports to the Big 12 next year if it happens. That'll mean that 3 Conferences (WAC, MWC, and WCC) will be eternally pissed at us with one (PAC-12) that just hates us. I think we've got the entire west covered now... didn't Brigham lead the saints West to get away from the hate?

And now it looks like we could be going back to Missouri with open arms...

...Porter Rockwell has to be rolling in his grave.

Why do you say the PAC-12 hates us? Are you referring to all those terrible things that BYU as done that SU keeps bringing up?

[SteelBlue]

Wrubell tweeted a link to an OK paper that I can't link from my iPod. States OU would agree to a 10 team Big 12 that included either BYU, TCU or Air Force or a 12 team Big 12 that includes all 3

[PolyCougar]

had to return to Mizzou at some point.

Touche

[Omaha 680]

To smart people this outcome has been predictable all along. So ask yourselves why there has been so little talk about BYU to the Big 12? (I'm not counting these insular boards. I consider most every bit of inside information a lie or spin, considering the norm.) Last year we knew Utah was on Larry Scott's white board, and almost immediately after Pac 16 fell through Utah was announced as an invitee. Smart people also saw this as predictable.

I think BYU to the B12 is still an open question.

Andy Katz is talking about them

If the Big 12 is safe with the remaining nine, then who will be the 10th?

The Big 12 athletic directors were seeking a 10th before Oklahoma started this latest chaos by saying it would like to explore its options. The ADs called Arkansas (no), BYU (maybe) and never got to the Big East options of Pittsburgh (now off to the ACC), Louisville (available) and West Virginia (available). BYU is an independent in football and its other sports are now in the West Coast Conference after playing in the Mountain West. If the Big 12 stays with its original targets, then BYU would be first up followed by Louisville and/or West Virginia. But those three schools, let alone one of them, would have to be assured that the Big 12 will stick together. There's always a chance the Big 12 could go for all three to get back to 12.

[Red Legger]

Slaver aren't going anywhere.

3D, I think mizzu still moves to the sec. I think the sec's statement is still covering for possible litigation. The big 12 can add Louisville, wvu or Cincy from the east and BYU and tcu/smu from the Midwest to fill the league back to 12.

It's just the Slaver's one shining moment in all of this:

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Besides, how could they leave us:

http://www.rulen.com/partisan/partisan.htm

You don't walk away from 120 years of history. As a guest here, I've found ya'lls potshots at each other's law schools and references to stupid university rankings to be a bit amusing. Kinda like our barbs w/ the Purple Pig Farmers. The Border WAR, though, is another matter. A bit more existential. I understand Mormons also have an existential gripe w/ the Slavers. Join the club.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

[venkman]

It's just the Slaver's one shining moment in all of this:

Mizzou One Shining Moment - YouTube

Besides, how could they leave us:

http://www.rulen.com/partisan/partisan.htm

You don't walk away from 120 years of history. As a guest here, I've found ya'lls potshots at each other's law schools and references to stupid university rankings to be a bit amusing. Kinda like our barbs w/ the Purple Pig Farmers. The Border WAR, though, is another matter. A bit more existential. I understand Mormons also have an existential gripe w/ the Slavers. Join the club.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk, Beat Mizzou

I guess you could say that.

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[EuropeanFootballMale]

If this happens I will no longer care about last Saturday. If it doesn't happen I will no longer care about anything.