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Worth a read. Very interesting. I think this the most accurate method of quantifying a team's fan base and revenue contribution to a new conference that I've seen. I think in the end the discussion will turn away from market size and the value of expanding the footprint and to basic fan base size as defined in this study.
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I thought BYU would be higher, and I'd argue some of the relative rankings especially #40 Kansas, #34 Kentucky, #28 Minnesota vs #43 BYU, but I generally accept the numbers.Originally posted by jay santos View PostWorth a read. Very interesting. I think this the most accurate method of quantifying a team's fan base and revenue contribution to a new conference that I've seen. I think in the end the discussion will turn away from market size and the value of expanding the footprint and to basic fan base size as defined in this study.
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I think some of those come down to a lack of options in a few medium to large cities. The home team is all they have to root for. That's only reason I can think Minnesota would be so high.Originally posted by jay santos View PostI thought BYU would be higher, and I'd argue some of the relative rankings especially #40 Kansas, #34 Kentucky, #28 Minnesota vs #43 BYU, but I generally accept the numbers."To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
—Abraham Maslow
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you can contribute to the study here,
http://www.commoncensus.org/index.php
It's a little slow right now, but still a worth while study.
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Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View PostI think some of those come down to a lack of options in a few medium to large cities. The home team is all they have to root for. That's only reason I can think Minnesota would be so high.
Yeah, TCU ahead of Utah? Seriously? They have so few fans, its silly. I think there are a lot of things wrong with that article, but still interesting to read.
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Reading the methodology, it seems they control for the fact that fans in a state or city could be fans of different teams.Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View PostI think some of those come down to a lack of options in a few medium to large cities. The home team is all they have to root for. That's only reason I can think Minnesota would be so high.
And if people are fans of Minnesota just because they have lack of options, they're still fans.
I wonder if they controlled for FB vs BB, because some of the schools that seemed to have higher than expected rankings were big basketball schools, ie Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Syracuse. In which case it would still be a very pertinent ranking for valuing conference expansion candidates, but should be labeled as combined FB/BB.
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Big 12 Merger Groundswell?
A person involved in the discussions tells The Associated Press that school and conference officials from the Big East and Big 12 have been discussing ways to merge what’s left of the two leagues if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12.
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BYU: Where mild irrelevance isn't good enough.Originally posted by LiveCoug View PostAwesome! We can now get left out of the leftovers!"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
"Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors
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Chip Brown update...
4:30 p.m. update - The UT regents have just voted in favor of granting UT president Bill Powers the authority to continue to participate in the Big 12 and/or seek a home in another conference.
They voted to give him the authority to act in the best interest of the University of Texas, whether that's in the Big 12 or changing conferences. It was a unanimous vote.
Powers said after the vote, "It's an ongoing process. We will comment when it's over."
He refused to take any questions.
Oklahoma's board of regents took the same action, authoring president David Boren the authority to act on OU's best interest in regards to conference affiliation. (Brown)"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Kbohls is saying that they gave the prez authority to stay in Big 12 only and not authority to change conferences. Which is it?Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostChip Brown update...
Originally posted by kbohlsNo small point. UT prez Bill Powers has authority to stay in Big 12, but cannot take action on own to change conferences; regents keep that.
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Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Postwho was the poster that was blaming Mizzou in all of this? Is there any question which school is causing all the heartburn?University of Oklahoma president David Boren said he is focused on either keeping the Sooners in the Big 12 or moving to the Pac-12. And while he said is not inevitable that Oklahoma will leave, he said the league must share television revenue equally among its members for the Sooners to stay.
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