The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • TripletDaddy
    sweet triple
    • Nov 2008
    • 58186

    #5776
    Originally posted by WashingtonCoug View Post
    http://newsok.com/breaking-removal-o...=breaking_news

    If OU stays, they want Beebe gone. This is something I can agree with!

    The source said OU's goal is not to run the Big 12. He said OU's goal is to not have any school run the conference.
    And the impression has been that Texas, via Beebe, has run roughshod over the Big 12.
    “The perception is, he answers only to one school,” the source said. “That does not work.”
    To summarize:

    B12 will likely stay together
    B12 gets a new conference commissioner that isnt a moran
    BYU will be invited
    West Virginia may be invited
    Hopefully Mizzou will now stay
    Revenue to be shared by all
    Texas will be forced to eat sh** in front of the world, their network having almost no viewers and the school first having been bent over a barrel by a shifty aTM and then forced to give in to a now-assertive OU's demands

    :rockon1:
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    • Gaffords
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 97

      #5777
      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
      To summarize:

      B12 will likely stay together
      B12 gets a new conference commissioner that isnt a moran
      BYU will be invited
      West Virginia may be invited
      Hopefully Mizzou will now stay
      Revenue to be shared by all
      Texas will be forced to eat sh** in front of the world, their network having almost no viewers and the school first having been bent over a barrel by a shifty aTM and then forced to give in to a now-assertive OU's demands

      :rockon1:
      it will be a cold day in hell before they touch the LHN to any real extent.
      -just sayin

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      • All-American
        Right, as Usual
        • Nov 2008
        • 15646

        #5778
        Originally posted by Gaffords View Post
        it will be a cold day in hell before they touch the LHN to any real extent.
        -just sayin
        Then goodbye Big 12. And since the PAC, the SEC, the ACC, and the B1G don't want the LHN, does that mean Tejas goes to the Big East?

        Texas needs to wake up and smell the dung. The LHN, as presently configured, is poison.
        τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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        • WashingtonCoug
          Monsters like me
          • Jan 2009
          • 1489

          #5779
          The only downside to Beebe leaving is that it could open the door for Hair Thompson. That would not be good. :igiveup:
          "To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail."
          —Abraham Maslow

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          • TheBYUGuy
            Friend of Rodin
            • Sep 2009
            • 1442

            #5780
            Originally posted by All-American View Post
            Then goodbye Big 12. And since the PAC, the SEC, the ACC, and the B1G don't want the LHN, does that mean Tejas goes to the Big East?

            Texas needs to wake up and smell the dung. The LHN, as presently configured, is poison.
            Unfortunately, you're right about the LHN being poison. But a big part of the motivation to keep the Big 12 together for Texas is to get the revenue from the LHN and keep it. If they don't get to keep it, why not seek a new, more stable conference?

            This whole thing continues to be more and more fascinating. I just hope BYU has a nice place to land.

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            • TripletDaddy
              sweet triple
              • Nov 2008
              • 58186

              #5781
              Originally posted by Gaffords View Post
              it will be a cold day in hell before they touch the LHN to any real extent.
              -just sayin
              touching it at all is victory enough for these other schools, I would imagine. Shared revenue will also be a big deal, regardless of tier. And OU dictating terms is probably feeling pretty good to them, as well.
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              • Marvelous
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 178

                #5782
                Originally posted by TheBYUGuy View Post
                Unfortunately, you're right about the LHN being poison. But a big part of the motivation to keep the Big 12 together for Texas is to get the revenue from the LHN and keep it. If they don't get to keep it, why not seek a new, more stable conference?
                Maybe they want to keep the Big 12 together in order to continue their regional rivalries and ease the travel burden for their other sports. All things equal (meaning no LHN) perhaps they feel staying in the Big 12 is still in the best interests of their athletes and fans.

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                • Gaffords
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 97

                  #5783
                  Originally posted by All-American View Post
                  Then goodbye Big 12. And since the PAC, the SEC, the ACC, and the B1G don't want the LHN, does that mean Tejas goes to the Big East?

                  Texas needs to wake up and smell the dung. The LHN, as presently configured, is poison.
                  Why would we shop the only conference that controls t-3 rights while ignoring the B1G using his mouthpiece about simply turning the LHN into an extension of the BTN or the ACC putting out there, we have two spots left.. HINT ND/UT HINT.. cough Texas if ND doesn't want to come?.. HINT HINT HINT..

                  end of the day, we will get to do this again next year! lol

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                  • Gaffords
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 97

                    #5784
                    Originally posted by Marvelous View Post
                    Maybe they want to keep the Big 12 together in order to continue their regional rivalries and ease the travel burden for their other sports. All things equal (meaning no LHN) perhaps they feel staying in the Big 12 is still in the best interests of their athletes and fans.
                    If it came down to giving it up, we would grab the huge payday from another conference... the LHN money helps us match what the pac schools are making. lose the 15 million and we will have to go for better money somewhere.

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                    • TripletDaddy
                      sweet triple
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 58186

                      #5785
                      Originally posted by Gaffords View Post
                      Why would we shop the only conference that controls t-3 rights while ignoring the B1G using his mouthpiece about simply turning the LHN into an extension of the BTN or the ACC putting out there, we have two spots left.. HINT ND/UT HINT.. cough Texas if ND doesn't want to come?.. HINT HINT HINT..
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                      • Marvelous
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 178

                        #5786
                        Originally posted by Gaffords View Post
                        If it came down to giving it up, we would grab the huge payday from another conference... the LHN money helps us match what the pac schools are making. lose the 15 million and we will have to go for better money somewhere.
                        That makes sense.

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                        • Uncle Ted
                          The Big 12 money shot.
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 28853

                          #5787
                          Chip Brown...


                          There is a serious effort being made, lead by Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton, to try to save the Big 12, according to high-placed administrator at a Big 12 school.

                          It will either be the Big 12's Hail Mary or its last gasp.

                          The administrator said Deaton, the head of the Big 12's five-member expansion committee, is trying to get everyone back to the table to try to see if the Big 12 can work out its differences.

                          A regent at another Big 12 school said he he was optimistic the conference could be heal its problems.

                          Oklahoma State mega booster Boone Pickens was quoted by The Oklahoman saying Pickens had called Texas Gov. Rick Perry, a former yell leader at A&M, to try and fix the Big 12.

                          But Texas A&M spokesman Jason Cook released a statement to Orangebloods.com that "Texas A&M has made our intentions perfectly clear. We do not intend to be a member of the Big 12 past this season."

                          The question then becomes if Texas, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State can live together in a nine-member Big 12?

                          And The Oklahoman quotes an unnamed, high-ranking Big 12 source as saying Oklahoma has a list of demands to hold the Big 12 together, including replacing commissioner Dan Beebe and for Texas to make some concessions as it pertains to the Longhorn Network.

                          The newspaper quotes sources saying OU was angered by ESPN getting a waiver from Fox to show a second game on the Longhorn Network and surprising the rest of the conference with the news.

                          The sources also tell the Oklahoman OU was upset when ESPN vowed to show high school highlights even after it was deemed impermissible by the NCAA to show high school games on LHN.

                          In general, the sources tell The Oklahoman, the Big 12 has a big trust problem that has to be rectified.

                          The Oklahoman also quotes a source saying Dan Beebe only serves one school - Texas.

                          The newspaper reports, ironically, Texas supported Jack Swarbrick as commissioner of the Big 12 and OU supported Beebe when Beebe was awarded the job as leader of the Big 12. Swarbrick is now the athletic director at Notre Dame.

                          Sources across the Big 12 confirm to Orangebloods.com that there is definitely a movement to try to save the Big 12 led by Deaton that may involve some radical proposals.

                          We will have more details as they become available.

                          A high-ranking official at a Big 12 school said, "The Big 12 is going to stay intact except for Texas A&M."

                          We will see if that's wishful thinking and the Big 12's Hail Mary - one year after a similar rescue attempt was successful - or if it's the Big 12's last gasp.

                          Stay tuned.
                          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #5788
                            Also, heard on the radio...

                            (1) Mizzou does NOT have an offer from SEC. The SEC made that very clear.

                            (2) Cal and Stanford expressed concerns about OSU and TTech's academics or the lack there of.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • LiveCoug
                              LA Ute loves me
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 18486

                              #5789
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              Chip Brown...
                              I can't believe there is a line in there about the Big 12 possibly remaining at 9. That would be a huge mistake. Big 12 needs to be very proactive!

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                              • Marvelous
                                Junior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 178

                                #5790
                                Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                                I can't believe there is a line in there about the Big 12 possibly remaining at 9. That would be a huge mistake. Big 12 needs to be very proactive!
                                Yep. They need to strike while the iron of expansion is hot and pick up BYU and WV/Louisville from the dying Big East.

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