The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • Babs
    Not a Lawyer
    • Nov 2008
    • 17128

    #4216
    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
    An SEC no vote would potentially stop the hysteria for awhile.
    Not going to happen, but that would be really funny. Can you imagine A&M crawling back.

    Texas fan today told me he's sad to see A&M go because OU-Texas isn't a "real rivalry."

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    • Moliere
      One man.....one pie
      • Oct 2009
      • 27819

      #4217
      Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
      I have a sneaking suspiscion the SEC Presidents didn't come close to envisioning the cluster**** that would ensue following TAMU's request for removal from the Big 12. It could very well lead to them all voting no. Just speculation on my part obviously.
      There is a 0% chance there are enough "no" votes and a 0% chance aTm doesn't go to the SEC. The deal is done and if aTm pulled out their fans would likely lynch the AD, President, Board of Regents and anyone standing in their way to get to those people.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Blueintheface
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 15382

        #4218
        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        There is a 0% chance there are enough "no" votes and a 0% chance aTm doesn't go to the SEC. The deal is done and if aTm pulled out their fans would likely lynch the AD, President, Board of Regents and anyone standing in their way to get to those people.
        Then we're back to the potential lawsuit that will ensue by the have-nots of the Big 12. In this day and age proving that the SEC was out in front of this the whole time should be easy, right? Damn, I knew I should have gone to law school.
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • Goatnapper'96
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 10920

          #4219
          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
          An SEC no vote would potentially stop the hysteria for awhile.
          I wonder if they would still invite BYU in the climb back to 12 should aTm stay? I am skeptical of the current appetite for super conferenceism and will be even more skeptical if SEC chooses to stay at 12. However, I am absolutely convinced that the Big-12 needs to get back to 12 and I believe one of those additions will be the BYU. I just think the Big-12 thinks it has the best shot to land Notre Dame and won't go beyond 11 until after ND chooses where to affiliate its football program.
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          • Color Me Badd Fan
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 12519

            #4220
            Originally posted by Babs View Post
            Not going to happen, but that would be really funny. Can you imagine A&M crawling back.

            Texas fan today told me he's sad to see A&M go because OU-Texas isn't a "real rivalry."
            What? The Texas-OU game is my favorite non-BYU game of the year.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • Blueintheface
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 15382

              #4221
              Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
              I wonder if they would still invite BYU in the climb back to 12 should aTm stay? I am skeptical of the current appetite for super conferenceism and will be even more skeptical if SEC chooses to stay at 12. However, I am absolutely convinced that the Big-12 needs to get back to 12 and I believe one of those additions will be the BYU. I just think the Big-12 thinks it has the best shot to land Notre Dame and won't go beyond 11 until after ND chooses where to affiliate its football program.
              Help me Obi Wan Swarbrick, your my only hope...help me Obi Wan Swarbrick, your my only hope...help
              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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              • Moliere
                One man.....one pie
                • Oct 2009
                • 27819

                #4222
                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                Then we're back to the potential lawsuit that will ensue by the have-nots of the Big 12. In this day and age proving that the SEC was out in front of this the whole time should be easy, right? Damn, I knew I should have gone to law school.
                I'm no lawyer but the lawsuit seems very unlikely of winning. I guess it's more of a scare tactic, but I doubt the SEC is worried. They can afford to defend a lawsuit. The money that passes through southern football is awe inspiring.

                But it seems hard to prove tampering given that aTm supposedly was courted by the SEC last year before the Big 12 lost Nebraska. aTm knows the SEC wanted it to join and even if there is a discovery phase I doubtthere is much evidence showing the SEC continued to court aTm. Mostly speculation on my part, but anyone hoping for aTm to stay is going to be disappointed.
                "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                • PolyCougar
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 242

                  #4223
                  Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                  What? The Texas-OU game is my favorite non-BYU game of the year.
                  Oh yeah, easily my #2 "must watch" non-BYU game (I'm a huge sucker for the Army/Navy game... I'm usually in tears before the coin toss). I don't know who would ever say that OU/Texas isn't a real rivalry. Although I think Texas gets the BYU treatment on a larger scale... all conference members consider themselves a rival to the Longhorns.

                  And for the record... I wish this two-year old friggin thread would have a happy ending already!!!
                  Last edited by PolyCougar; 09-06-2011, 01:18 PM.

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                  • Goatnapper'96
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10920

                    #4224
                    Originally posted by PolyCougar View Post
                    Oh yeah, easily my #2 "must watch" non-BYU game (I'm a huge sucker for the Army/Navy game... I'm usually in tears before the coin toss). I don't know who would ever say that OU/Texas isn't a real rivalry. Although I think Texas gets the BYU treatment on a larger scale... all conference members consider themselves a rival to the Longhorns.
                    The last decade I have been in tears when it ended!
                    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                    -General George S. Patton

                    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                    -DOCTOR Wuap

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                    • Babs
                      Not a Lawyer
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 17128

                      #4225
                      Originally posted by PolyCougar View Post
                      Oh yeah, easily my #2 "must watch" non-BYU game (I'm a huge sucker for the Army/Navy game... I'm usually in tears before the coin toss). I don't know who would ever say that OU/Texas isn't a real rivalry. Although I think Texas gets the BYU treatment on a larger scale... all conference members consider themselves a rival to the Longhorns.
                      My guess is that by fake rivalry he meant "game that Texas can't win half the time."

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                      • Coach McGuirk
                        1
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12109

                        #4226
                        Planes are all headed to atlanta, gonna be a fun evening.

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69521

                          #4227
                          Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                          Planes are all headed to atlanta, gonna be a fun evening.
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                          • Babs
                            Not a Lawyer
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 17128

                            #4228
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            announcement.

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69521

                              #4229
                              Originally posted by Babs View Post
                              announcement.
                              Which planes?

                              What announcement?

                              Why Atlanta?
                              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                              • oxcoug
                                Dolphins Rape Hipsters
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 5309

                                #4230
                                Originally posted by Babs View Post
                                My guess is that by fake rivalry he meant "game that Texas can't win half the time."

                                This. Some Texas fans wants a vassal not a rival.

                                Just like some Texas men want a domestic servant for a wife, not an equal partner.

                                [Yeah why not, I'll go ahead and make that claim]
                                Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī

                                It can't all be wedding cake.

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