The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[SeattleUte]

Yes he is and he is perfectly capable of defending himself, but continued personal attacks, especially those involving someone's family, are out of line and in extremely poor taste.

It's okay. He's just proven he knows nothing about my brother or me. He's just one of those unhappy name droppers.

[Viking]

Yes he is and he is perfectly capable of defending himself, but continued personal attacks, especially those involving someone's family, are out of line and in extremely poor taste.

You're really stretching here.

A) this happens all the time w me and my bro here (Inc at the hands of SU)

B) this wasn't directed at his brother, who is nothing but first class.


SU is a troll. He's a sad guy and someone I dot care for one bit.

[SeattleUte]

It's amazing how personal we can all take... some of this.

We intend to poke some eyes... but lose sight of how far we take it sometimes.

I've said stuff I regret later. Most of us probably have.

Anyone guaranteeing BYU is going to the PAC because Texas will get Stanford into a headlock has got a lot of issues.

[EuropeanFootballMale]

I wish BYU had a brother that could save the Big 12 and get BYU into it


(or do they . . . . . . . . ?)

[Devildog]

Anyone guaranteeing BYU is going to the PAC because Texas will get Stanford into a headlock has got a lot of issues.

As far as Texas goes... I've made no secret of the fact that I don't think they would make a good partner in the PAC. They come off to me as too self centered and selfish to make a good partner. That is a cancer we don't need in the PAC.

I don't have anything against OU or OSU... other than I think conferences should remain basically geographical.

If super conferences are the future... the PAC might not have any choice other than to grow way outside it's basic geography in order to become a super conference.

[Babs]

You're really stretching here.

A) this happens all the time w me and my bro here (Inc at the hands of SU)

B) this wasn't directed at his brother, who is nothing but first class.


SU is a troll. He's a sad guy and someone I dot care for one bit.

Yes, but you're beginning to exhibit a marked pattern of particularly caustic and profane posting. To stand out on those grounds during what is possibly the most antagonistic period the board has ever seen is a rather ignominious bragging right.

[Viking]

Anyone guaranteeing BYU is going to the PAC because Texas will get Stanford into a headlock has got a lot of issues.

I've never said that.

Ok, so yours is yours. Great.

How about that wager?

[Viking]

Yes, but you're beginning to exhibit a marked pattern of particularly caustic and profane posting. To stand out on those grounds during what is possibly the most antagonistic period the board has ever seen is a rather ignominious bragging right.

I agree with you completely about yesterday's post an regret that tremendously.

[LA Ute]

aw, are the widdle wutes getting nervous? Don't want to have to play the big bad teams from the Big12 south?

Texas just looks like a school that has caused problems in all conferences of which it has ever been a member. Who would wish for that? More importantly, I am looking at this realignment stuff based on the most important factor: what works best for ME. I live in SoCal, and I want Utah playing here often, not in Texas or Oklahoma.

Thanks for giving me a chance to straighten that out.

[Babs]

Texas just looks like a school that has caused problems in all conferences of which it has ever been a member. Who would wish for that? More importantly, I am looking at this realignment stuff based on the most important factor: what works best for ME. I live in SoCal, and I want Utah playing here often, not in Texas or Oklahoma.

Thanks for giving me a chance to straighten that out.

You're welcome. You sound almost as convincing as the first three times you explained.

[Viking]

Yes, but you're beginning to exhibit a marked pattern of particularly caustic and profane posting. To stand out on those grounds during what is possibly the most antagonistic period the board has ever seen is a rather ignominious bragging right.

Said another way, you could ban me over yesterday's post and I would get it.

Today? Nah.

[Scorcho]

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clearly there are dozens of scenarios that could play out over the next few weeks, I could even see OU and OSU going to the PAC-16 without Texas.

Who knows???

[cougjunkie]

Good Lord. I see fear and desperation has really set in if you're hoping for a PAC invitation. It's impossible. Jeez. Why do suppose the PAC has never shown the slightest interest in BYU? BYU might as well try for 16th Sec team.

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You are actually incorrect. Val Hale was on 1320 the other day and said when he was AD the Pac-10 ADs unanimously approved BYU as the 11th member. It then went to the presidents and it was 9-1. The vote had to be unanimous and he said one of the more liberal schools shot them down. He did not mention specifically who it was. But he did hint that it might have been Stanford.

BYU has been very much on the PACs radar for a long time. He also said they had talks with the Big East, Big 12 and Big 10 regularly.

[Coach McGuirk]

Stop, hammertime.

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1260448

Legislators and statewide office holders have swung into high-pressure mode to get Texas president Bill Powers and athletic director DeLoss Dodds to slow down any decision that might involve the Longhorns joining the Pac-12, multiple sources said Sunday.

With reports surfacing that Oklahoma is all but ready to commit to the Pac-12, Texas lawmakers are so concerned about the Longhorns possibly following suit that a full-court press is being made to slow things down by elected officials and corporate CEOs with influence, sources said.

"We don't want any hasty decision being made that hasn't been well thought out," one lawmaker told Orangebloods.com on Sunday.

Sources said the reason lawmakers are hot is that they received assurances from the Big 12, including Powers, that the Big 12 would survive without Texas A&M.

And because of those assurances, lawmakers did not take an aggressive stand against Texas A&M withdrawing from the Big 12. But that may be changing.

Sources said members of the Legislature are or will be reaching out to Texas A&M president R. Bowen Loftin to tell him the Aggies may no longer have the blessing of lawmakers to leave the Big 12, especially if it looks like the Big 12 will collapse.

Texas is outplaying a&m on and of the field.

[Uncle Ted]

Bingo! I never bought it last year. It seemed more like an attempt between OU/TX/BU to hold CU in place in the BIG 12. I think the change in revenue sharing was settled on before NU and CU left but it didn't matter by then. 20 to 25 mil > 15/17 mil any day.

I would almost swear the rift between UT/A&M started and has been growing ever since A&M took the money from the orphan 5 when OU/UT turned it down. A&M saw more money in the SEC and had a chance to go so it dropped the ball during the weak attempt to slow down CU. Ever since then, there has been major strain between UT and A&M to the point that Ut has been courting ND for the day A&M bolted to the SEC.

Last year it seems to me that the one of the reasons that Texas/Tech/Ou/OKSt were talking about going to the Pac-10 was to force the new TV contract(s). I recall reading that ESPN and other networks don't care for the idea of 16 team super conferences because it would require larger contracts and it gave less flexibility. In short, the super conferences would increase the risk of the network's investment in the conference. It seems all this recent talk about OU, UT, and others going to the Pac-12+4 may be history repeating itself. Could it be that the Big 12 is expanding back to 12 but now is negotiating the increase in the TV contracts? Are they are getting some push back from Fox Sports/ESPN and so they are doing the same thing they did last year? (I.e. threatening to bolt to the Pac-12 to form a super conference) If so, the Pac is the Big 12's "tool".

Edit: Or it could be all a ploy to force aTm to stay in the Big 12.