The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • LA Ute
    Receiver of Memory
    • Nov 2008
    • 19512

    #2491
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    No. Pelagius said that you're the one who needs to be careful with the language you use. Not everyone else.
    Look, you're already off the Christmas card list. How far do you want to take this?
    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
    ― W.H. Auden


    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    • byu71
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 22070

      #2492
      Originally posted by USCoug View Post
      Wisconsin is the early favorite.
      BSU is the early favorite in both polls ranked ahead of Wisconsin.

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      • Paperback Writer
        Signature won a Pulitzer
        • Nov 2010
        • 5211

        #2493
        Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
        Not even Boise State or TCU? They might not win the Big XII or Big Ten outright, but either team would be very close to the top.

        (Actually, TCU needs to prove itself with a new QB this year so that would temper the outlook somewhat, but Boise will be very tough.)
        Boise St. and TCU will be good teams this year and they have been good for quite a while. It's not a knock on either program but of difficulty of conference schedule. TCU proved it can defeat Wisconsin. What has not been proven is if Boise St. or TCU can defeat Wisconsin, Ohio St., Minnesota, Michigan St., Northwestern, Penn St., Michigan, and Iowa in October and November. Plus a conference championship game. Could TCU or Boise St. navigate enough wins in such a schedule to win the Big Ten? As you know, it cannot be proved or disproved. I used Nebraska's 2011 Big Ten schedule for reference.
        “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
        "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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        • Babs
          Not a Lawyer
          • Nov 2008
          • 17128

          #2494
          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
          This is the only wagon in the B12 kie2:
          Damn straight.

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          • Flystripper
            Degenerate Gambler
            • Nov 2008
            • 14089

            #2495
            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
            Second, what's the matter with you? You're Mr. Trojan Fan around here. How can you stand by while people denigrate the PAC-12???
            He is a Trojan. They are the Pac 12 Anchor. When people denigrate the Pac 12, Trojan fans know that the denigrators are not talking about them.
            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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            • dabrockster
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10942

              #2496
              Originally posted by byu71 View Post
              It is quite possible that the BIG10 er 11 is more overrated than the PAC12.

              I don't think a team from the BIG10 er 11 could win the MWC this year.
              :slap:

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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #2497
                Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                :slap:
                Boise State is going to be good. They might not go undefeated in the Big 10, but they'll go undefeated in the MWC. And if Wisconsin was in the MWC and Boise State only had them to worry about for one game well I like Boise's odds. So yes I too agree with BYU71.
                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                -Turtle
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                • Blueintheface
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 15382

                  #2498
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  Boise State is going to be good. They might not go undefeated in the Big 10, but they'll go undefeated in the MWC. And if Wisconsin was in the MWC and Boise State only had them to worry about for one game well I like Boise's odds. So yes I too agree with BYU71.
                  I just hope the powers that be don't pit us against BSU in our BCS game this year.
                  "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                  "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                  • dabrockster
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10942

                    #2499
                    Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                    Boise State is going to be good. They might not go undefeated in the Big 10, but they'll go undefeated in the MWC. And if Wisconsin was in the MWC and Boise State only had them to worry about for one game well I like Boise's odds. So yes I too agree with BYU71.


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                    • LiveCoug
                      LA Ute loves me
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 18486

                      #2500
                      Andy Katz says his sources are telling him that BYU will not go to the Big 12:

                      Originally posted by Andy Katz
                      According to a number of sources at the school, nearly everyone involved with BYU is looking forward to beginning play in the WCC and as an independent in football. The Cougars were waiting to get the chance to play on their own in football and once there was no chance they would be with Utah, which joined the Pac-12, they jumped at the opportunity.

                      That's why there is no movement, according to sources, to be a possible replacement for Texas A&M in the Big 12 if the Aggies go to the SEC. BYU is not an easy addition for conferences with its restrictions on playing on Sundays. The Cougars do have their own television network and a new deal with ESPN, and the football team has had no issues scheduling for the upcoming season. Sources said the Cougars want to see how this plays out before joining a conference such as the Big 12 that may have some stability issues.

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                      • Maximus
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 6016

                        #2501
                        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        please explain how not only one, but MULTIPLE teams from a different conference could possibly win the MWC this season?
                        you know what I mean. I think there are a number of Big 10 or Big 12 teams if they were placed in the MWC I would see them winning the MWC. Obviously, not all at same time.

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                        • Blueintheface
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 15382

                          #2502
                          Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                          Andy Katz says his sources are telling him that BYU will not go to the Big 12:
                          Interesting. I'm not a student of Andy Katz but if memory serves me his sources are often correct. I hope not in this case obviously.
                          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                          • Flystripper
                            Degenerate Gambler
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14089

                            #2503
                            Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                            Andy Katz says his sources are telling him that BYU will not go to the Big 12:
                            :igiveup:
                            Dyslexics are teople poo...

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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #2504
                              Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
                              He is a Trojan. They are the Pac 12 Anchor. When people denigrate the Pac 12, Trojan fans know that the denigrators are not talking about them.
                              :fighton1:
                              Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                              • Coach McGuirk
                                1
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12109

                                #2505
                                Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                                Andy Katz says his sources are telling him that BYU will not go to the Big 12:
                                and the football team has had no issues scheduling for the upcoming season.
                                Uh......

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