The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Uncle Ted]

If BYU starts dealing with protests at Colorado, it makes BYU radioactive on a few different levels. If CFB is bound to be two superconferences with 30 teams each, that is the type of publicity we simply can't afford. On the flip side, maybe if we can play nice together, it's a non-issue.

IMO, BYU football's future depends on two things: 1. performing well in the first five years in the B12, and 2. navigating the cultural/political minefield. Colorado makes the latter more difficult.

Colorado couldn't be any worse than dealing with some of the a-holes around here.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Colorado couldn't be any worse than dealing with some of the a-holes around here.

Seriously, if anything the recent few years have illustrated that the handwringing by some BYU fans over our public perception is way overblown. If BYU has strong fan support and athletic success, everything is fine.

[SeattleUte]

I'm not sure what's the best mataphor for this thread now. Silo, echo chamber, or circle jerk.

[falafel]

Can you imagine a circle jerk inside of an echo chamber silo?

[Jeff Lebowski]

I'm not sure what's the best mataphor for this thread now. Silo, echo chamber, or circle jerk.

Just a happy group of fans in a conference with a stable future and a secure media contract.

[Pelado]

Can you imagine a circle jerk inside of an echo chamber silo?

Yes, but only because you provided the prompt. I wish you hadn't.

[SeattleUte]

Just a happy group of fans in a conference with a stable future and a secure media contract.

What does that have to do with the Pac. And the Pac is stable.

[Jeff Lebowski]

What does that have to do with the Pac. And the Pac is stable.

This is the Big 12 thread! Try to pay more attention.

And "stable" is the last word I would use to describe the Pac right now. Haha.

[YOhio]

This is the Big 12 thread! Try to pay more attention.

And "stable" is the last word I would use to describe the Pac right now. Haha.

A lot of people use that word when misrepresenting reality.

[SeattleUte]

Another one. Maybe this is it. This thread is a cluster fuck. You're all wallowing together in the slime of your inexhaustible gism.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Another one. Maybe this is it. This thread is a cluster fuck. You're all wallowing together in the slime of your inexhaustible gism.

You seem confused today. This is the thread where we have talked about potentially moving to the Big 12 over the years. You know, the one where you mocked us over and over again and insisted it would NEVER happen. And then it happened.

[Eddie]

Can you imagine a circle jerk inside of an echo chamber silo?

Not something I need to hear echoing.

[Green Monstah]

Seriously, if anything the recent few years have illustrated that the handwringing by some BYU fans over our public perception is way overblown. If BYU has strong fan support and athletic success, everything is fine.

If we were dealing with reasonable economic actors, I'd totally agree. This is not aimed at you, but I'm not sure the faculty and administration at large universities only look at dollars and cents (see, e.g. Utah's obsession with Pac-10 academic prowess).

[Jeff Lebowski]

If we were dealing with reasonable economic actors, I'd totally agree. This is not aimed at you, but I'm not sure the faculty and administration at large universities only look at dollars and cents (see, e.g. Utah's obsession with Pac-10 academic prowess).

How is that P12 academic snobbery working out these days? You think the networks care about "cultural cohesion" when they put a value on the product?

[myboynoah]

How is that P12 academic snobbery working out these days? You think the networks care about "cultural cohesion" when they put a value on the product?

Yeah, that snobbery worked out great when they had the LA market in the house.

Good heavens, the B12 has operated just fine with Baylor in the conference. Religious people watch a lot of sports, likely more sports than woke people.