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  • Color Me Badd Fan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 12523

    #1951
    The Big 12 is probably the second best basketball conference in the country, maybe third best at worst. The basketball games would be a huuuge step up alone. If I were Rose, I would quit if BYU turned down a Big 12 invite.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • Omaha 680
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 11218

      #1952
      Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
      The Big 12 is probably the second best basketball conference in the country, maybe third best at worst. The basketball games would be a huuuge step up alone. If I were Rose, I would quit if BYU turned down a Big 12 invite.
      Not to mention baseball and track. I realize football drives everything, but when you have your very good basketball program and your nonrevenue sports stranded, you have to take the invite if it comes from the Big 12. Even if it is a lateral move in football (it is huge step up IMO), the benefit to the rest of the athletic department would be phenomenal.

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      • Babs
        Not a Lawyer
        • Nov 2008
        • 17128

        #1953
        Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
        Seeing that I have seen at least 2 other "big 12 AD's"quoted with BYU as the top canidate after ND, I am not sure what to think.
        I am thinking that the quoted AD is from one of the schools that doesn't have the resources to travel.

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        • Color Me Badd Fan
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 12523

          #1954
          Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
          Not to mention baseball and track. I realize football drives everything, but when you have your very good basketball program and your nonrevenue sports stranded, you have to take the invite if it comes from the Big 12. Even if it is a lateral move in football (it is huge step up IMO), the benefit to the rest of the athletic department would be phenomenal.
          Baseball is the sport that could cause problems for BYU. They routinely play on Sunday and often have back to back games on the weekends. I think BYU would actually have to be limited to basketball and football because scheduling the minor sports would be too difficult with BYU.
          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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          • byu71
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22070

            #1955
            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            Baseball is the sport that could cause problems for BYU. They routinely play on Sunday and often have back to back games on the weekends. I think BYU would actually have to be limited to basketball and football because scheduling the minor sports would be too difficult with BYU.
            Where did we consistently finish in the MWC in baseball?

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            • Blueintheface
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 15382

              #1956
              Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
              Baseball is the sport that could cause problems for BYU. They routinely play on Sunday and often have back to back games on the weekends. I think BYU would actually have to be limited to basketball and football because scheduling the minor sports would be too difficult with BYU.
              Right, because baseball teams never play double headers.
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              • Omaha 680
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 11218

                #1957
                Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                Where did we consistently finish in the MWC in baseball?
                3-4. Sometimes 2. We never finished ahead of TCU.

                Baseball is the sport that could cause problems for BYU. They routinely play on Sunday and often have back to back games on the weekends. I think BYU would actually have to be limited to basketball and football because scheduling the minor sports would be too difficult with BYU.
                Why must you crush my dreams? How about double headers on Saturday when you play BYU? They'd go for that, right?

                Edit: BITF beat me while I was learning how to use the quote feature.
                Last edited by Omaha 680; 08-22-2011, 11:52 AM.

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                • Cougarmandias
                  Stringpuller to the stars
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 407

                  #1958
                  Goodwill is a myth. I have to believe that the Church's owned-industries haven't gotten as rich as they are on anything other than a clear-eyed assessment of what the world is about. If not, the 'goodwill' we had with Utah and with the MWC, which meant exactly squat when push came to shove, should have taught us something.
                  I think, perhaps, the only person who hates BYU fans more than ute fans hate BYU fans, is Bronco Mendenhall.
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                  • Color Me Badd Fan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 12523

                    #1959
                    Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                    Right, because baseball teams never play double headers.
                    http://insidetexas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16408

                    Here's Texas's baseball schedule. They didn't play a single doubleheader the entire year. I suppose there may have been a rain delay mixed in here are there.

                    And two thirds of BYU's games would be double headers since all of the games are three-game series that run Friday-Saturday-Sunday.
                    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                    • Blueintheface
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 15382

                      #1960
                      Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                      http://insidetexas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16408

                      Here's Texas's baseball schedule. They didn't play a single doubleheader the entire year. I suppose there may have been a rain delay mixed in here are there.

                      And two thirds of BYU's games would be double headers since all of the games are three-game series that run Friday-Saturday-Sunday.
                      Small price to pay for Texas et al to bask in our deliciousness.
                      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                      • Omaha 680
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 11218

                        #1961
                        Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                        Small price to pay for Texas et al to bask in our deliciousness.
                        Maybe the prospect of padding their HR numbers in the thin air of Miller Park will sweeten the deal for them.

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                        • TripletDaddy
                          sweet triple
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 58186

                          #1962
                          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                          http://insidetexas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16408

                          Here's Texas's baseball schedule. They didn't play a single doubleheader the entire year. I suppose there may have been a rain delay mixed in here are there.

                          And two thirds of BYU's games would be double headers since all of the games are three-game series that run Friday-Saturday-Sunday.
                          this seems like an insurmountable issue for each B12 school to play two Thurs-Fri-Sat series a year. Add to that the fact that no other conference has ever agreed to accomodate a No Sunday play rule before and that pretty much kills the BYU to B12 rumors.
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                          • Color Me Badd Fan
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 12523

                            #1963
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            this seems like an insurmountable issue for each B12 school to play two Thurs-Fri-Sat series a year. Add to that the fact that no other conference has ever agreed to accomodate a No Sunday play rule before and that pretty much kills the BYU to B12 rumors.
                            I never said insurmountable, but a ton of the smaller sports play on Sunday and I'm sure conference tourneys commonly have games on Sunday. I don't know if the Big 12 would be fine only having BYU for basketball and football, but BYU probably wouldn't be fine with it since I doubt the WCC would be cool with us staying in the conference with everything besides basketball.
                            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                            • oxcoug
                              Dolphins Rape Hipsters
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 5309

                              #1964
                              Originally posted by Babs View Post
                              I am thinking that the quoted AD is from one of the schools that doesn't have the resources to travel.
                              Or it's the Baylor AD who is a Momo-hating fundamentalist.

                              I don't know if that's true, but this would be my Mom's theory.
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                              • SeattleUte
                                Faith crisis consultant
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 20837

                                #1965
                                Originally posted by Babs View Post
                                I am thinking that the quoted AD is from one of the schools that doesn't have the resources to travel.
                                Babs, don't lead them along. You know the problem. Tell them: Texas is just Cal Berkely wearing a long horn head dress.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

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