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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69453

    #19036
    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
    So this is why the B1G should combine with some Pac 12 teams?
    I agree. The B1G would be crazy to merge with the P12. Not going to happen.
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    • PaloAltoCougar
      Semper infra dignitatem
      • Nov 2008
      • 16912

      #19037
      h/t to oxcoug for passing along this video of UT's first meeting with the SEC. I love Louis CK in the A&M role.

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      • SeattleUte
        Faith crisis consultant
        • Nov 2008
        • 20837

        #19038
        Kansas basketball should go the Big East. Maybe just discontinue football.
        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

        --Jonathan Swift

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        • Jeff Lebowski
          Corporate lackey for Jesus
          • Nov 2008
          • 69453

          #19039
          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
          h/t to oxcoug for passing along this video of UT's first meeting with the SEC. I love Louis CK in the A&M role.
          Oh man. That is golden. Wiping tears of laughter.
          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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          • Uncle Ted
            The Big 12 money shot.
            • Apr 2010
            • 28853

            #19040
            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

            I agree. The B1G would be crazy to merge with the P12. Not going to happen.
            Then why is the PAC Commish dusting off his business meeting manuals?



            No Big 12 school uses that crap.
            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69453

              #19041
              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

              Then why is the PAC Commish dusting off his business meeting manuals?



              No Big 12 school uses that crap.
              Funny to see the replies from Texas Tech fans. They are desperate.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69453

                #19042
                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                Funny to see the replies from Texas Tech fans. They are desperate.
                Ha. Well, I guess they should be nervous. Texas/OU departure will cost Lubbock $120-160M per year. Yikes.

                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • Uncle Ted
                  The Big 12 money shot.
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 28853

                  #19043
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  Ha. Well, I guess they should be nervous. Texas/OU departure will cost Lubbock $120-160M per year. Yikes.
                  Yeah, the PAC isn't going to take the Big 12 orphans...

                  Looking at which programs that could bring value the Big 12 may go knocking on BYU's door with their hats in hand:

                  Which college football programs are the most valuable in conference realignment?

                  In the last round of conference realignment, TV markets ruled the day.

                  People weren’t cutting the cord 10 years ago, and conferences wanted to get their networks into as many cable homes as possible. That’s why the Big Ten added Rutgers (NYC) and Maryland (Baltimore/DC), the SEC added Missouri (St. Louis/Kansas City) and the Big 12 added TCU (Dallas).

                  In this round of conference realignment, the size of a program’s fan base is the most important factor. TV networks are building out their streaming platforms, and the more people invested in the teams they carry, the more subscriptions they can sell.
                  [...]
                  Ranking the most valuable college football programs
                  After averaging each program’s ranking in those four categories, here’s how 73 college football programs ranked from best to worst.

                  I included all 64 Power 5 conference teams, plus Notre Dame and the eight programs most popularly discussed as Big 12 expansion candidates: Boise State, BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, SMU, UCF and USF.

                  1. Ohio State
                  2. Michigan
                  3. Alabama
                  4. Texas
                  [...]
                  31. Oklahoma State
                  32. Texas Tech
                  [...]
                  37. West Virginia
                  38. North Carolina
                  39. BYU
                  40. Iowa State
                  [...]
                  And you can see why the eight Big 12 teams left behind are in trouble. The schools remaining range from Oklahoma State (31) to Baylor (59).
                  [...]
                  Of all the available programs, BYU (39) is the only one that ranks in the top 50. UCF (56) is next, followed by Boise State (62).

                  BYU would rank fourth in the Big 12 if it joined today — ahead of five current Big 12 programs — and the Cougars might decide they’d rather just say independent at that point.
                  https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-...t-b8e840f42189


                  Funny... Oklahoma St and Texas Tech are far more valuable than Utah and Colorado. Maybe the Pac should just kick those guys out and add these Big 12 teams in their place.
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Moliere
                    One man.....one pie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 27790

                    #19044
                    Tech wouldn’t bring a thing to the PAC. Yes, they are in Texas, but it’s the panhandle and basically southern Kansas. It’s got crappy academics (including a subpar accounting program). It’s basically what Utah state is to Utah, Texas Tech is to UT.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #19045
                      Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                      Tech wouldn’t bring a thing to the PAC. Yes, they are in Texas, but it’s the panhandle and basically southern Kansas. It’s got crappy academics (including a subpar accounting program). It’s basically what Utah state is to Utah, Texas Tech is to UT.
                      Yeah, about the only thing to do in Lubbock is to go to the windmill museum...

                      Visit the largest collection of windmills in the world featuring over 170 rare and fully-restored windmills. Must see: a 6,000-square foot, hand-painted mural titled Legacy of the Wind.
                      I am sure all the PAC teams would love a long plane trip to see this!
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Pelado
                        Bald not naked
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 21083

                        #19046
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        Tech wouldn’t bring a thing to the PAC. Yes, they are in Texas, but it’s the panhandle and basically southern Kansas. It’s got crappy academics (including a subpar accounting program). It’s basically what Utah state is to Utah, Texas Tech is to UT.
                        Awesome.
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                        • BigFatMeanie
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 7083

                          #19047
                          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post

                          Yeah, about the only thing to do in Lubbock is to go to the windmill museum...
                          Not true, man. They can also see the statue of Buddy Holly!

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                          • SeattleUte
                            Faith crisis consultant
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 20837

                            #19048
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            Ha. Well, I guess they should be nervous. Texas/OU departure will cost Lubbock $120-160M per year. Yikes.

                            Lubbock must indeed be a backwater if losing 5-6 college football games a year would have a material impact on its economy.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • SeattleUte
                              Faith crisis consultant
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 20837

                              #19049
                              Every time conference realignment comes back to the news (it's like a seasonal thing), you all get mean as rattlers. It's unpleasant to watch and makes me feel bad. Can you be kinder? I think you'd be happier.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • Bo Diddley
                                Senior
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 18695

                                #19050
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                The last chopper will rise from the US embassy into the blue above Saigon, and BYU will be left behind with the abandoned, huddled, terrified masses (I ripped this analogy off form MikeWaters). And the reason will have nothing to do with what you've all been discussing.
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