The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[lambdacoug]

if you gonna quote Kip, do it properly.

Your mom goes to college!

[Jeff Lebowski]

He didn't provide a declaration of funkbombs, so we can't say for sure.

Is it an int? Probably should at least be an unsigned long given the expected number.
Or, more likely, is it an object with ++ operator?

Why bother with all the potential heartburn?

Unsigned long. Duh.

[lambdacoug]

As will I. The Knotts/Conway team was a lot of great entertainment. The Prize Fighter is a fun one too.

While one and one make two, you're standing in horse neers.

[TripletDaddy]

GTFO with all this sh** and get back to b12 expansion.

[San Juan Sun]

GTFO with all this sh** and get back to b12 expansion.

Amen and amen.

[BigPiney]

As will I. The Knotts/Conway team was a lot of great entertainment. The Prize Fighter is a fun one too.

I will love Private Eyes forever, and always.

Agreed, one of the best.

[hostile]

GTFO with all this sh** and get back to b12 expansion.

Isn't it sh++?

[lambdacoug]

Unsigned long. Duh.

Well, that depends on architecture and language. Not all have ulong and not all have ulong of the same length or endianess, some languages don't even have the concept of unsigned... I know, crazy... *



* - Fuck java and it's opaque type system! **


** - except for Hadoop, Long Live Hadoop!

[lambdacoug]

GTFO with all this sh** and get back to b12 expansion.

Well, apparently, it is (b12--)--. Since those dumbasses can't count...

[Topper]

GTFO with all this sh** and get back to b12 expansion.

F++ and Sh++. Well done. Knock it off.

[TripletDaddy]

The Dude of WV lets it all out

I'm going to go out on a limb here. Say some stuff I shouldn't.

Before I say anything I want to add an important caveat.

When discussing the Big 12 you must understand the factions involved & how problematic reaching a consensus is, like herding autistic cats.

Texas & Oklahoma are one faction. WVU is another. The Texas schools, the OK schools, the KS schools all in whole or part factions.

Each of these factions has their own interests. So agreeing to anything is difficult.

They all agree they don't want to expand. They all agree they will only expand if necessary.

More later

Sorry for the delay. So the Big 12 is one dysfunctional family. Bowlsby is more of a manager than a leader

So why would expansion go smoothly? No chance.

This is controversial but we're talking about the conference that passed on FSU, Clemson & Louisville

So how can we expect them to agree on the available schools?

The Big 12 did their homework. They looked at the available schools again in terms of valuations

They had help. Mostly, I'm told, from IMG. But Fox & ESPN also chimed in..

Fox & ESPN didn't veto anybody.

They (Fox & ESPN) told the B12 that no available candidates add value. They did express the recommendation to expand in the East.

The committee narrowed down the list to BYU, Cincy, Memphis & UCF

Nobody could agree on two candidates. Then something odd happened. Something unexpected

Texas, who has been anti expansion, was pressured to add UH. I was wrong about that

UT reportedly told the Big 12 the only way they vote for expansion is to include UH

But UH doesn't have enough votes. Nobody does

So as long as UH doesn't have the votes the committee will not submit them to the Presidents.

The two reportedly chosen are UH & Cincy. They have not been invited. They can't until the vote

The Big 12 hopes it won't have to expand. So the vote won't come until Summer 2016 at the earliest. With expansion in 2017 if at all.

For Memphis & BYU the possibility exists that the fortunes of UH change & the pressure subsides

Because in order for UT to secure the necessary votes they will likely have to make concessions. Concessions they loathe to make.

Personally I'm not confident an agreement will be reached. I think it could.

But that's for UT & OU to decide

If they must expand the great majority of the Big 12 wants Memphis not UH.

Although one thought is that UH would be the 5th Tx school in the B12 & forever bind UT to the conf

If that happens & UT agrees to extend the GoR & give up LHN then I have no problem with UH

In this case OU holds the Ace. They can block UH until UT makes some concessions

If OU does block then the TX schools may pressure that UH be excluded least the strive destabilize the Big 12

This is the Big 12. Nothing is certain until the press conference is over. All this could change because of the dynamics involved.

Honestly it makes my head hurt. The Big 12 needs to get its act together & act like an ongoing business concern

If not it has no future

One more note. There are those in the Big 12 who will swear UT would never sponsor UH

More than one trusted source has denied UH is even a candidate this very night

It confuses me too but it shows how dysfunctional the Big 12 really is & how far they must go

As of 9/9/15 if the Big 12 would expand they would invite UH & UC with Memphis & BYU very close behind.

But a lot can happen in 1 or 2 years. Last year UCF was the darling of the Big 12 & this year fell off the map. Nothing is certain.

Consider this a weather report. The wind is blowing this direction today but no guarantees it will blow that way tomorrow

Obviously I did not understand the political climate in Texas that would apply so much pressure on UT to include UH.

I wish ESPN & Fox would veto somebody. Maybe just say add these 2. But if they don't pay up they must shut up

One more thing before I call it a night. I have nothing against UH. They have a fine football pedigree but otherwise questionable value

If the Big 12 expands I want the 2 schools that add the most & help secure the future of the Big 12

If UH does that then I'm all for their addition. But it seems that a political appointment does nothing to secure the Big 12.

[TripletDaddy]

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[myboynoah]

lol WVU is its own faction.

[TripletDaddy]

lol WVU is its own faction.

wvu, a school that is below .500 in conference since joining, not only is its own faction, it has enough juice to demand travel partners.

[Commando]

Didn't much care for the cheap shot at autistic cats.