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  • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    Harmon sez: TCU AD and Bronco were roomies in college.

    http://m.deseretnews.com/article/865...o%2FW8jesglMCq
    Reading through that article, it appears the Big XII expansion committee consists of:

    1. Ken Starr-- LDS-friendly Baylor pres who spoke at the J. Reuben Clark conference @ Pepperdine back in 2007 and who penned a Romney/Mormon presidential candidate defense op-ed;
    2. West Virginia's pres Gordon Gee who is a Mormon from Vernal and was a GD professor and Associate Dean at BYU in the 70s ;

    3. and then the dude from OU whom I think favors expansion and likes BYU anyway.

    We got this!
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    • Originally posted by Commando View Post
      Reading through that article, it appears the Big XII expansion committee consists of:

      1. Ken Starr-- LDS-friendly Baylor pres who spoke at the J. Reuben Clark conference @ Pepperdine back in 2007 and who penned a Romney/Mormon presidential candidate defense op-ed;
      2. West Virginia's pres Gordon Gee who is a Mormon from Vernal and was a GD professor and Associate Dean at BYU in the 70s ;

      3. and then the dude from OU whom I think favors expansion and likes BYU anyway.

      We got this!
      It's almost as if God saw the end from the beginning....although I can't remember if Gee is still active LDS. I know his daughter isn't. Hopefully, if he isn't active, he falls into the flystripper realm of still loving BYU sports.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Enter Sandman: MWC lives in fear of getting poached by the b12!

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        • Where is land poke?
          @WyoNationDotCom

          "Wyoming into the Big12 before BYU. Just let that sink in."
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          • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
            Where is land poke?
            @WyoNationDotCom

            "Wyoming into the Big12 before BYU. Just let that sink in."
            They are joining the Big12 in wrestling. Just like UVU.....

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            • CSU. That's funny.
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              • I expect a deal by early next week. After all, a full moon is the best time to ratify alliances.

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                • Enough with the Nebraska rumors already!

                  http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...huskers-072915

                  Nebraska left the Big 12 in 2010 due in large part to the league's chronic dysfunction (fueled at that time by Missouri openly lobbying to join the Big Ten). Five years later, the Big 12 is still marked by divisiveness, odd marriages and questions about its stability. So yes, absolutely, Nebraska is going to reverse course on the steady, markedly unified and filthy rich (and about to get that much richer) Big Ten to go back to the Big 12. Suuure.
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                  • Charlie Strong sez: I dont care but I'm all for it!

                    http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Stro...atter-38461355

                    “To me it wouldn't matter,” Strong said earlier this week during a radio interview with Norm Hitzges on KTCK-AM 1310 The Ticket in Dallas. “It's however our commissioner decides the way he wants to go with it.”
                    “Competition makes us better,” Strong said. “If it makes every team better then I'm all for it.”
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                    • Barry Tramel publishes really interesting letter from a long-tenured professor at Nebraska and his insights as to how and why the move to the B1G went down.

                      http://newsok.com/why-nebraska-never...rticle/5436874

                      “I can still remember the moment (6:46 a.m. on 9 June 2010) when I heard the announcement that Nebraska was going to be invited to the Big Ten; I nearly leapt up in bewildered joy! If this was true it was the greatest event in the history of the university since its founding. I felt that I was experiencing an ending to a Victorian novel: the grim, forbidding fate inevitably closing in was suddenly replaced by an improbable twist leading to glorious future! Nebraska was now, by association, in the academic environment of Chicago, Wisconsin, Northwestern, et al. There is a saying in real estate that the best investment is to own the least expensive house in the most expensive neighborhood, and this is essentially where Nebraska finds itself.
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                      • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                        Barry Tramel publishes really interesting letter from a long-tenured professor at Nebraska and his insights as to how and why the move to the B1G went down.

                        http://newsok.com/why-nebraska-never...rticle/5436874
                        I thought about posting a link to that letter after reading a reference to it on another site. I changed my mind after reading the "really interesting" letter and not finding it very interesting. Basically, a tenured professor is happy his alma mater is now a Big Ten school.

                        TLDR: Academics matter in the B1G but not enough to stop it from inviting Nebraska (and possibly OU). Husker fans miss the old days of the Big 8 because back then they were relevant to college football.
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                        • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          The only practical reason I can see (and it is material) is that OU is having enough trouble making it through the B12 schedule. An SEC schedule could prove to be unmanageable.

                          This is probably the same reason Texas will never go to the SEC...to save face about not dominating everyone else and also because Texas would, at best, be maybe third power dog in that conference. Any designs of UT calling the shots in SEC football would be pure fantasy.
                          That said, Missouri and Texas A&M to everyone's surprise suddenly became much better after moving to the SEC. Why is that? OU and Texas would probably do fine there.
                          Last edited by BlueK; 07-30-2015, 12:36 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                            That said, Missouri and Texas A&M to everyone's surprise suddenly became much better after moving to the SEC. Why is that? OU and Texas would probably do fine there.
                            If, by fine, you mean not win the conference just like aTm and Mizzou, then I agree.
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                            • OU would fit in fine in the SEC they were in trouble before it was hip. Texas will continue being a mediocre program that has a 2-5 year stretch of being really good every 30-40 years regardless of what conference they are in.
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                              • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                                If, by fine, you mean not win the conference just like aTm and Mizzou, then I agree.
                                A&M and Missouri were also-rans in the Big 12 for several years. They seem like much better teams now in the SEC. There's just something weird about that given the hype of the SEC. They should have been bottom dwellers and they're clearly not. True, Texas might not be that fine right away given the struggles they've been having.

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