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Thank you Larry Scott.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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The PAC10 has already expanded and is looking to expand further.Originally posted by falafel View Post
There will be an announcement regarding expansion, however, it is yet undetermined whether that will be to 12, 14 or 16.Comment
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That's because BYU fans actually went to the game instead of watching it from home.Originally posted by LA Ute View Post"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Yes, paid attendance at the Las Vegas Bowl was a whopping 40,018, as opposed to the 32,665 at the Poinsettia.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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The San Francisco Bay Area has considerably more people than the Portland, OR area. It's not surprising that the larger population center would bring more eyeballs to the TV audience.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostPart of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”Comment
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Yes, but I was responding to the generally-accepted notion that BYU automatically draws significant/large TV audiences because of its church sponsorship (or for whatever reason).Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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I am not comparing anything. Just suggesting that the claim of BYU's attractiveness as a sports TV "eyeball magnet" deserves skepticism. I may be wrong, so if there's evidence to the contrary I promise to give it a look. No desire here to start an argument over Arbitron/Neilsen ratings smack!Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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You sound like you have a lot of information on this.Originally posted by Portland Ute View PostComment
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You may be wrong, but you may be right.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostI am not comparing anything. Just suggesting that the claim of BYU's attractiveness as a sports TV "eyeball magnet" deserves skepticism. I may be wrong, so if there's evidence to the contrary I promise to give it a look. No desire here to start an argument over Arbitron/Neilsen ratings smack!Comment
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True, and this has always been a great comfort to me.Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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He may be right. I may be crazy. But it just might be a lunatic he's looking for.Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View PostComment
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That was part of my point. The Vegas bowl was sold out and I'm pretty sure the sell out was thanks mostly to BYU fans. The Poinsettia bowl was not sold out and I have no idea how many Utah fans were there but I bet it was less than BYU fans in Vegas.Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
Granted the two can't really be compared, but you (or some other Ute) brought up tv ratings in the first place. I guess I'm trying to say that using one point of data to prove a point is meaningless, especially when there are many other factors involved. Otherwise, I could just point out that Utah's BCS bowls are the lowest watched BCS bowl games in history, except for the pitiful ACC/Big East matchups over the past couple years.
The truth is that BYU has a very good viewing audience both in and outside of Utah. I bet that if BYU was in a BCS conference, their viewership would grow a lot more."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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I don't doubt BYU will get extra fannies in the seats, wherever they play. I'm just wondering if there's evidence that they add eyeballs to the TV viewing audience.Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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Quoting Billy Joel, eh?Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
Edit: I'm a hack. Sorry 'bout that, YO."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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