The PAC 10 expansion groundswell

[Pelado]

UNLV and AF staying home. P7 and MWC both need one more member. Who do they target?

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[myboynoah]

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I saw that. Made me laugh.

So now the MWC and PAC fight over Texas State? So weird.

Also, can AF and UNLV really be sure that they will get that money?

[Omaha 680]

The Mountain West logo has always been awful.

[USUC]

The Mountain West logo has always been awful.

Nintendo 64 graphic.

[beefytee]

The Mountain West logo has always been awful.

Not a fan of the old Jazz mountains then?

[myboynoah]

Why? It's like they are stumbling around in the dark just reaching out for something to hold onto.

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[Pelado]

Why? It's like they are stumbling around in the dark just reaching out for something to hold onto.

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There is an 8-team minimum for FBS conferences to remain as conferences. The Pac-12 is currently taking advantage of a 2-year waiver to get back to at least 8, and they still need one more. The Mountain West will need to add two teams from somewhere. There aren't a lot of good options for acquisitions, at least NIU and Toledo are already FBS. They might have to promote somebody from FCS, like Sacramento State, North (or South) Dakota State, or one (or both) of the Montanas. The other options I've heard a lot are New Mexico State and UTEP.

[myboynoah]

There is an 8-team minimum for FBS conferences to remain as conferences. The Pac-12 is currently taking advantage of a 2-year waiver to get back to at least 8, and they still need one more. The Mountain West will need to add two teams from somewhere. There aren't a lot of good options for acquisitions, at least NIU and Toledo are already FBS. They might have to promote somebody from FCS, like Sacramento State, North (or South) Dakota State, or one (or both) of the Montanas. The other options I've heard a lot are New Mexico State and UTEP.

Yeah, I understand the MWC's dilemma, just don't understand why they are reaching out to MAC schools. Given the schools that are sticking around, it is going to get squeezed on its next media deal. Better to stay in the west to limit travel budgets. You mention the better solutions: New Mexico State, UTEP, Montanas, Dakotas. are the obvious solutions.

[USUC]

What are the chances that after this all plays out, they just ultimately merge? Seems like the alternatives are untenable for both leagues.

[Joe Public]

It may be unrealistic to expect two commissioners to proactively work toward a solution that would result in one of them necessarily losing their job.

[myboynoah]

What are the chances that after this all plays out, they just ultimately merge? Seems like the alternatives are untenable for both leagues.

There seems to be a lot of animosity between the two leagues, so that doesn't appear doable right now. The PAC wants to create the clearly fifth best football conference, so may take another run at Memphis, Tulane, and UTSA. Or it could try to bring in UTEP as a bridge to future expansion. As for the MWC, the future looks grim IMO.

[Omaha 680]

It's appropriate all this is being discussed in a thread triggered by Utah's movement 15 years ago. They are the poison that ultimately killed the conference of champions and the downstream effects of the infection is wrecking multiple smaller conferences. I'm just glad Utah's new conference mates recognize what they have been forced to take in.

[Moliere]

There seems to be a lot of animosity between the two leagues, so that doesn't appear doable right now. The PAC wants to create the clearly fifth best football conference, so may take another run at Memphis, Tulane, and UTSA. Or it could try to bring in UTEP as a bridge to future expansion. As for the MWC, the future looks grim IMO.

Memphis and Tulane are probably smart to stay in the AAC because when the ACC ultimately loses FSU and Clemson they’ll likely look to those schools to replace what they lost. The ACC without FSU and Clemson is a better league than the current PAC.

[USUC]

Memphis and Tulane are probably smart to stay in the AAC because when the ACC ultimately loses FSU and Clemson they’ll likely look to those schools to replace what they lost. The ACC without FSU and Clemson is a better league than the current PAC.

I've seen some accusations that OSU and WSU have been making some unreasonable demands about money distributions from playoffs and media rights. Terms appear to be acceptable to some MWC teams but not from programs further east.

[myboynoah]

Memphis and Tulane are probably smart to stay in the AAC because when the ACC ultimately loses FSU and Clemson they’ll likely look to those schools to replace what they lost. The ACC without FSU and Clemson is a better league than the current PAC.

Yeah, probably best to stay put until things settle in the ACC. If FSU and Clemson do find a way out, that conference is going to blow up. Memphis and Tulane can then join with those dregs to form an eastern version of OSU and WSU are trying to do.