Bronco articulates his verbal commitment policy

[Surfah]

Mack Brown, Paul Johnson, and Bronco Mendenhall are all hypocrites, liars, and whatever else others have said in this thread. The strange thing is they all seem to be very successful.

Too bad Boylen is part of that list too.

[byu71]

What % of the fanbase do you really think this is? I rarely if ever come across any such people in real life. I know this is something that always bothers you. But you are probably talking about a bunch of 20 somethings, who are still zealous advocates of their faith, who recently returned form missions where they spent almost 100% of their time discussing how their faith is the one and only true one.

I don't see the point in worrying about a few, or a bunch of stupid one or two line posts on a fast-paced message board, or the 24 hour media coverage that blows everything up. If that is really destroying your ability to enjoy BYU football, why not skip some of the message boards, and some of the over-hyped media outlets instead of backing away from something you enjoy so much?

It has been duly noted by many through many years on these boards that I overreact to a small part of the fan base. However, to me I am the pied piper out there warning, they are coming and they are growing. We must stop them. I won't call anyone who says I overreact to that small fan base out to lunch. They are probably right.

However, it might also be I overreact on these sites so I can get it out of my system and not overreact in my real life.

Let's take up a hat, raise money, hire a shrink, and find out why I get bugged so easily.

[TripletDaddy]

It addresses both.

how? You indicate clearly that in both scenarios, there are problems. This would support what Hot Lunch is saying.

Your hypo doesn't contradict Hot Lunch's assertion. It simply rationalizes it.

Your alleged "destruction" is more like ameliorative w.a.s.t.e.

[jay santos]

According to Hot Lunch and others, they Apo is the flip-side of the Kona coin and the two situations illustrate how Bronco is a "hypocrite".

Seems a fool's errand to try to prove Bronco is not a hypocrite in this area (RM's transferring to BYU). Equally so to try to make him out to be a bad guy for being a hypocrite (it's how you play the game--everyone does it).

All I care about is whether or not what he's doing maximizes the talent level in the program.

[cougjunkie]

Don't forget Joe Kruger.

How does it make Bronco a hypocrite though? Other schools are going to continue to recruit his kids and if a kid is fully committed the way Bronco wants him to he will tell the other coaches

"Look I am fully committed to BYU and I am ending my recruitment"

If Bronco goes out and a kid has a verbal to a school and he starts to recruit him anyways and the kid says:

"Yeah I committed to Utah but I would love to visit and see what else is out there"

By Broncos own definition the kid is not fully committed which means Bronco is not being a hypocrite at all.

[Surfah]

How does it make Bronco a hypocrite though? Other schools are going to continue to recruit his kids and if a kid is fully committed the way Bronco wants him to he will tell the other coaches

"Look I am fully committed to BYU and I am ending my recruitment"

If Bronco goes out and a kid has a verbal to a school and he starts to recruit him anyways and the kid says:

"Yeah I committed to Utah but I would love to visit and see what else is out there"

By Broncos own definition the kid is not fully committed which means Bronco is not being a hypocrite at all.

Exactly.

[SeattleUte]

I've seen this before. Frank Arnold and Roger Reid were seemingly successful basketball coaches who were nevertheless self-righteous pricks. They had success for a while because of the LDS pipeline and some very good fortune with once in a generation LDS players at certain positions. But eventually, their arrogant, erascible, self-righteous, holier than thou behavior destroyed their programs. It took awhile but both started to lose becuase they were such jerks no one wanted to play for them anymore, and then they were fired, basically for being jerks.

[Indy Coug]

Seems a fool's errand to try to prove Bronco is not a hypocrite in this area (RM's transferring to BYU). Equally so to try to make him out to be a bad guy for being a hypocrite (it's how you play the game--everyone does it).

All I care about is whether or not what he's doing maximizes the talent level in the program.

You mean RMs that are recruitable athletes that haven't verbally committed to a school after becoming a recruitable athlete?

[byu71]

Mack Brown, Paul Johnson, and Bronco Mendenhall are all hypocrites, liars, and whatever else others have said in this thread. The strange thing is they all seem to be very successful.

Just my opinion, calling Bronco a liar or hypocrite over this is on the same level as calling into question Kona and his fathers character over this issue. A pox on all of your houses who do so to either party.

[mUUser]

As a Utah fan, I really don't see anything wrong with his policy. In fact, it's probably a market differentiator that most LDS parents lap up like kittens to a bowl of milk. What integrity! What honor!

He sure does come across as an odd guy though.

[Hot Lunch]

Mack Brown, Paul Johnson, and Bronco Mendenhall are all hypocrites, liars, and whatever else others have said in this thread. The strange thing is they all seem to be very successful.

They are all very successful. I am not mad at Bronco or hate him for it. I still think he is a great coach and he has every right to recruit the way he wants to recruit. I just don't agree with it. I don't agree with Johnson and Brown on this either.

[TripletDaddy]

Some of you must have skipped over this from Surfah:

This was puzzling

There’s this fallacy out there that everybody is going to take five visits and decide on signing day. We know that’s not going to happen.

Didn't we just spend all day yesterday watching recruits decide on a school after having taken multiple visits, and in some cases having already told coaches that they were coming?

[Surfah]

I've seen this before. Frank Arnold and Roger Reid were seemingly successful basketball coaches who were nevertheless self-righteous pricks. They had success for a while because of the LDS pipeline and some very good fortune with once in a generation LDS players at certain positions. But eventually, their arrogant, erascible, self-righteous, holier than thou behavior destroyed their programs. It took awhile but both started to lose becuase they were such jerks no on wanted to play for them anymore, and then they were fired, basically for being jerks.

Majerus?

[il Padrino Ute]

Because I am nice, unlike YOhio.

http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showpo...&postcount=210

So, can it be said that if a kid (your girlfriend) commits to play football for Bronco (you) then decides to see what else is out there (other schools) it is your fault?

[byu71]

I've seen this before. Frank Arnold and Roger Reid were seemingly successful basketball coaches who were nevertheless self-righteous pricks. They had success for a while because of the LDS pipeline and some very good fortune with once in a generation LDS players at certain positions. But eventually, their arrogant, erascible, self-righteous, holier than thou behavior destroyed their programs. It took awhile but both started to lose becuase they were such jerks no one wanted to play for them anymore, and then they were fired, basically for being jerks.

Reid got fired because he was losing and worse yet Utah was winning. Being a jerk was of little consequence.