Bronco articulates his verbal commitment policy

[Indy Coug]

There may be others, but I stop going to chat a long time ago because of the number in there that like to play big shot and blow smoke up peoples butt's.

You and I are on the same page on that one. That's why I wrote the Ode to the Surprise Recruit yesterday.

[byu71]

The folks who you let get to you would be frustrating even if Lavell was the head coach. They were then and they still are. This self-righteous wing of the LDS fanbase did not exactly spontaneously generate when Mendenhall became the HC.

Of course they have always bugged me. It would be interesting to have a shrink go into my subconcious and see waht the issue is. The same thing that bugs me about them bugs me about the elite media, Harvard, Yale and the professor crowd. The professor crowd thing has been corrected thanks to some very patient yet stern educators on the board. The college professor group is off of my, they bug me list.

I guess I just dislike them having a voice that is the most prominant coach at BYU. On the field and from what I have heard about him in private, he is my kind of guy. In the media, he is the Eagle Forum's kind of guy.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I just do not see why some people think its ok for a guy like Urban Meyer and Mack Brown to do it but not Bronco. The bottom line is Ute fans should be happy that he does it this way because it seems like the majority do not agree with him so maybe eventually it will come back to bite him in the ass.

(However everyone that matters i.e. the players he is recruiting are all for it and love the loyality he asks for and shows in return)

I don't think it is wrong at all for him to do it the way he is doing. He is clearly getting results. The only problem I have is when he says that backing out of a verbal commitment is a sign that a player will not make it at BYU. This isn't about morals, it is about BM doing what he thinks is best for the program.

[cougjunkie]

I don't think it is wrong at all for him to do it the way he is doing. He is clearly getting results. The only problem I have is when he says that backing out of a verbal commitment is a sign that a player will not make it at BYU. This isn't about morals, it is about BM doing what he thinks is best for the program.

Well if they are backing out of a verbal that means they like somewhere else better, which in turn tells me that chances are they will not be happy at BYU.

Did you see the quote that KC posted from Schwenkes dad?

"Bronco never told us that Kona would have a problem living the honor code. He clearly explained to us that if we tripped to other schools our offer would be pulled. We knew very well what the consequences were. Bronco was very upfront with us."

[byu71]

The same way I feel about people scrutinizing all things about Bronco and searching somewhere somehow for inconsistincies with respect to pinky handshakes with kids who started at other schools, kids on scholarship or kids supposedly promised a scholarship. I either mock or ignore them, but in the end they represent human beings that are bitter and in a state where their emotional mindset clouds reality. Why would a group of people so out of touch with reality have such an impact on you? I doubt I am going to change Utenation's (or even Jay Santos') opinion on Bronco as they have a pathological need for him to be a hypocrite, so why should it get me worked up?

Maybe the impact is huge, maybe not. Not wanting to be on the TBS or CB board anymore isn't about the impact on me, it is about who I want to hang out with. They could be wonderful people. I don't pick those types to play golf with and since this is entertainment, well.......

AS far as being excited about going to games, well I have often said I think it is the heavy dose of religion with football, but it could be that I am just getting older and older and older.

I realized the other day in the elevator, I have completely lost my cool touch with the women. Old age is not golden. It is brown and runny.

[byu71]

Well if they are backing out of a verbal that means they like somewhere else better, which in turn tells me that chances are they will not be happy at BYU.

Did you see the quote that KC posted from Schwenkes dad?

Where is that. That changes things for me as far as Bronco goes. Doesn't change a thing with the "defenders of the faith" crowd, but it does take away something I thought was out of line from Bronco.

[TripletDaddy]

I focus on the commitment part, not the verbal part. If I tell you I am going to do something, I think my honor and succinct honesty is being addressed to do what I say I'm going to do.

And if, for some reason I don't, I'm going to give a great reason.....

lol.

Bronco is a clown, but if he keeps winning 10 games a season, playing in but choking in most of the big games, beating Utah the majority of the time, and providing this bass-ackwards quotes, dude will be set for life at the Y.

[byu71]

I'm only defending Bronco in this situation. I have no interest in trying to defend the opinions of anonymous message board posters. You seem to be tying them up into one big ball.

If I am, I am doing a very piss poor job of communicating. I have tried to say over and over again, Bronco can pull a kids offer if the kid doesn't meet his demands. No problem. He is the CEO. He is running a successful corporation.

I say sometimes he says things that get to me. So what, I don't even care that he does, why should someone else.

I do think the fans that take this stuff and run with it are dickheads. I have said so ever since Bronco became coach and they were coming out with all this crap about he will get all the LDS kids because that is all we need. LDS RM's can take us to the promised land. I can quote other things they attributed to Bronco, that you don't hear much anymore, like the Hawaii formula is the formula for getting us to a BCS game.

Seems I was pillaried for disagreeing with Bronco, now guess what>

[dabrockster]

lol.

Bronco is a clown, but if he keeps winning 10 games a season, playing in but choking in most of the big games, beating Utah the majority of the time, and providing this bass-ackwards quotes, dude will be set for life at the Y.

Nice way to cut his full quote there DDD.. Which I think lines up with his "I am not perfect" comment, but you left that out didn't ya...

[YOhio]

Nice way to cut his full quote there DDD.. Which I think lines up with his "I am not perfect" comment, but you left that out didn't ya...

:clap:

[il Padrino Ute]

Lots of coaches are wrong then.

How many other coaches tell players that once you've verbally committed to me you better not talk to anyone else?

[YOhio]

How many other coaches tell players that once you've verbally committed to me you better not talk to anyone else?

All of them that have integrity.

[byu71]

lol.

Bronco is a clown, but if he keeps winning 10 games a season, playing in but choking in most of the big games, beating Utah the majority of the time, and providing this bass-ackwards quotes, dude will be set for life at the Y.

KC, you maybe mixing me up with DDD.

[kccougar]

Where is that. That changes things for me as far as Bronco goes. Doesn't change a thing with the "defenders of the faith" crowd, but it does take away something I thought was out of line from Bronco.

Sorry, should have linked. I think this is the right article, but I don't have TBS access so let me know if it isn't there.

http://byu.scout.com/2/941818.html

[TripletDaddy]

Nice way to cut his full quote there DDD.. Which I think lines up with his "I am not perfect" comment, but you left that out didn't ya...

Nobody thinks he is perfect, so no need to provide more dicta to that effect, although it seems to go more towards how he will apologize for not keeping his word. This is the rest of his quote. I don't see how it has anything to do with not being perfect

And if, for some reason I don't, I'm going to give a great reason and I'm going to apologize profusely for any inconvenience I've caused. I try to prevent that at all costs. I try to teach that principle. The job I have is first and foremost to be a teacher to teach life skills to players and their parents.

"Sometimes parents get caught up thinking a verbal commitment is not a commitment when I told them specifically when at BYU a commitment is a commitment no matter how it comes to me, and I don't expect any other visits no any interest in any other school.

The final part of that quote is as is, I imagine that a [sic] is in order...either that or Bronco is engaging in his usual doublespeak.