2011 BYU recruiting........

[cougjunkie]

The problem with the recruiting services is that all they have is the kids word on who he has offers from. Since the schools are not allowed to comment you will never know what offers they really had.

I know for a fact several in state recruits are claiming false offers in hopes of others taking notice.

[Surfah]

The problem with the recruiting services is that all they have is the kids word on who he has offers from. Since the schools are not allowed to comment you will never know what offers they really had.

I know for a fact several in state recruits are claiming false offers in hopes of others taking notice.

So of 3 star/45 score ESPN rated Ofahenague's 20 offers, how many are legit?

[cougjunkie]

So of 3 star/45 score ESPN rated Ofahenague's 20 offers, how many are legit?

Considering his brother claimed like 10 offers and committed to Utah. Yet he really had zero offers and is still is claiming he will play for Hawaii after his mission yet Hawaii has no clue who he is. I would say he might have 1 or 2 legit offers if that.

[Hot Lunch]

The problem with the recruiting services is that all they have is the kids word on who he has offers from. Since the schools are not allowed to comment you will never know what offers they really had.

I know for a fact several in state recruits are claiming false offers in hopes of others taking notice.

This is very true. When all is said and done, we as fans really don't know who or how many offers a kid really has.

[Goatnapper'96]

Did the # from last year's class just go up 1 with Sampson hitting Provo?

I think Joe Sampson is likely as talented a db prospect as BYU has had in some time. I don't know if he is at the same level of physical ability, in his position group, as Ryker Mathews but he is a great prospect.

Saying that there is part of me that is a bit apprehensive about Joe. I think Joe is a stud gifted, but he is the type of stud that mid-majors like Utah and BYU have to take chances on. I am glad that he chose BYU, but I think we should temper our excitement and expectations about him contributing. While I think his natural ability is as high as that at many big time BCS level programs, my instinct is many of those programs passed on him not because his cousin was a Broncoite doing more with less vertical height than Steve Young's mister happy did during Steve's thirties...or something like that. My point is I believe that big time schools cooled on Joe because they recognized that it might take him 3 years at a JC to get his associates. Now he did get his associates and he is elgible to play at BYU for next year, that is great for BYU. But BYU's defensive scheme seeks to maximize BYU's strength which is older, more mature players recognized for high football IQs more frequently than eye popping natural athleticism. I have my concerns that Joe will be able to get the reps and experience neccesary to master any position on the field enough to garner any playing time. Heaven knows I hope I am wrong, as I think a defensive backfield of Sampson at the BC, Eason at FC, Spencer Hadley at FS and Dan Sorenson at SS could be really good by October. But I think it likely we will see Eason and Buckner at CBs and Sorenson and Uale at safeties. This is why I have my reservations......

I see the most likely endstate of Sampson at BYU as not real well. I don't think he will demonstrate that he knows where to be often enough in practice, despite his awesome athleticism, to earn any meaningful playing time. He will not be happy. I could see Sampson getting depressed or frustrated and either transferring to a FCS or smaller level division or getting kicked out for grades or some undisclosed HC violation. It has the early signs of potential disaster, IMO. Fans who are aware of his awesome athleticism will whine like the women of Srbrnca that Bronco is playing Uale because of Uale's "real life experiences." I am looking at you '71 as the String Puller in Charge to lead this whining!

That whining will annoy me as I don't accept that Bronco thinks Travis' door knocking experiences make him a better football player but rather Travis knowing where to be on the field. With Sampson I think the most gifted 4 dbs are Sampson, Eason, Sorenson and Spencer Hadley. However, BYU doesn't play a system with a lot of man to man coverages where athleticism can compensate for "position mastery." Perhaps this season they can move in that direction but I doubt it as while these kids are better athletes than Quinn Gooch might have been they are still not elite college level athletes. I just don't think Hadley can pick up enough of the nuances of the schemes to take over at FS with one fall camp and I have my concerns that Sampson will ever know any one position well enough to play, but the ingredients are there for an enormous whine fest should BYU slip up in any or some of their tough matchups next year.

[MarkGrace]

Is there a Goat's greatest hits thread?

[redrumu]

The problem with the recruiting services is that all they have is the kids word on who he has offers from. Since the schools are not allowed to comment you will never know what offers they really had.

I know for a fact several in state recruits are claiming false offers in hopes of others taking notice.

I'm not sure about scout, but the rivals guys won't list a recruit as having an offer unless the kid faxes in the offer letter. Unless that's changed recently, you should be able to trust their listings.

[cougjunkie]

I'm not sure about scout, but the rivals guys won't list a recruit as having an offer unless the kid faxes in the offer letter. Unless that's changed recently, you should be able to trust their listings.

Rivals lists Moana OFahengue with about 20 offers. I am guessing faxing in offer letters is no longer required.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...hengaue-114416

[Portland Ute]

Rivals lists Moana OFahengue with about 20 offers. I am guessing faxing in offer letters is no longer required.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...hengaue-114416

That link you provided shows only 12 offers, not 20.

[cougjunkie]

That link you provided shows only 12 offers, not 20.

That is about 10 more than he really has. Either way Rivals is full of shit in fact I would say even more so than Scout as Utezone might be the most unreliable site out there. I have never seen a website that charges you for inside information be wrong so many times. They make up about 90% of what they throw out there so people feel like they are getting there moneys worth. One out of ten sticks and they bring that up when the other 90% of BS they spew is incorrect.

[byu71]

Bronco is playing Uale because of Uale's "real life experiences." I am looking at you '71 as the String Puller in Charge to lead this whining!

First I will need to develop a man crush on Sampson, right now I don't even have a child crush on him. Second, Bronco will have to state Uale is playing because of his "life experiences".

Until those two things happen, someone else will have to lead the "charge.

[CJF]

First I will need to develop a man cruch on Sampson, right now I don't even have a child crush on him.

[Joe Public]

Hinds sounded pretty positive toward BYU in today's press. I don't know whether he talks like that about his other schools of interest, too, but it can't hurt.

[Uncle Ted]

Hinds sounded pretty positive toward BYU in today's press. I don't know whether he talks like that about his other schools of interest, too, but it can't hurt.

Yes, he seems so positive toward BYU he didn't even bother showing up to camp this week. Of course, he has lots of offers to consider.

[byu71]

Yes, he seems so positive toward BYU he didn't even bother showing up to camp this week. Of course, he has lots of offers to consider.

What , he has been to at least one camp hasn't he? I thought that was a must before he could get an offer. Am I wrong?