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  • #76
    Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
    Just as a frame of reference to understand your head scratching, how many of these guys have you seen play?
    Sampson and Afo. I also have a number of friends that coach in the High School ranks here in Utah and they have seen Muitalo play so I am basing it off of there respected opinions. I also know a lot about Joey Owens.

    When it comes to recruiting, I follow the scholarships that have been offered to the kid because there is no way we as fans can see them all play. Many of these guys don't have offers from other schools or very very small schools.
    Last edited by Hot Lunch; 01-22-2010, 10:01 AM.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
      Get your fact straight. Chase Warner was a walk-on. He declined a scholarship at Reno to walk-on at BYU. The story has been told and retold often.

      Oversigning? Here are the commits by year:

      2002 - 14
      2003 - 13
      2004 - 28
      Average - 18.3

      2005 - 18
      2006 - 25
      2007 - 27
      2008 - 25
      2009 - 22
      2010 - 27
      Average - 24

      Bronco has as many commits this year as Crowton had in 2002 and 2003 combined. BYU lost so many of the 2004 commits in the first year that the oversigning in 2004 didn't have any real downstream effect as far as scholarship availability goes; although the high attrition rate had significant longterm fallout, particularly in the DB ranks.
      Listing the average doesn't show the issue I'm talking about, right?

      Let's say you have 22 to give every year. You offer 22 every year. 18 to kids coming right away and 4 to kids that you send on missions because you don't have enough for them to come in the fall. Then you send 9/18 on missions. If you do this every year, you have 9 kids leaving on missions and 13 coming back with 18 new freshman. That's the "buying recruits on credit" I'm talking about. Every year a couple of these kids we offer are kids that we wouldn't let them come if they needed a scholarship right away.

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