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  • #16
    I'd definitely have mixed feelings about Whit leaving to USC. First, Utah would have to strike it rich again with a hire out of the MAC/WAC/Conf. USA, etc. I don't want to say Utah was lucky that they hired Meyer, but hiring a head coach from outside the program is definitely hit or miss and I just don't know of any prospect out of 1aa or the MAC that would be intriguing for Utah. And unlike the Meyer departure with Whit sitting in the wings, who had long been thought to be a good HC prospect, I don't know of an assistant at Utah who can be promoted. Although it's far from being a certainty, Utah may not have as much luck with their next hire as they were with the last two.

    So, I'd hate to see one of the big three in the MWC take a big step back due to the quest to become an AQ conference. On the other hand, it would be nice to see BYU string together consecutive wins against Utah.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
      I'd definitely have mixed feelings about Whit leaving to USC. First, Utah would have to strike it rich again with a hire out of the MAC/WAC/Conf. USA, etc. I don't want to say Utah was lucky that they hired Meyer, but hiring a head coach from outside the program is definitely hit or miss and I just don't know of any prospect out of 1aa or the MAC that would be intriguing for Utah. And unlike the Meyer departure with Whit sitting in the wings, who had long been thought to be a good HC prospect, I don't know of an assistant at Utah who can be promoted. Although it's far from being a certainty, Utah may not have as much luck with their next hire as they were with the last two.

      So, I'd hate to see one of the big three in the MWC take a big step back due to the quest to become an AQ conference. On the other hand, it would be nice to see BYU string together consecutive wins against Utah.
      The other reason Whit would be perfect for USC is that his record in terms of coaching ethics is impeccable. I guess he did RUTS on Wyoming that year with the on-sides kick.
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
        I'd definitely have mixed feelings about Whit leaving to USC. First, Utah would have to strike it rich again with a hire out of the MAC/WAC/Conf. USA, etc. ...
        I'm guessing Gary Anderson would be back in Crimson if Kyle left.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SloanHater View Post
          I'm hearing that Norm Chow is at the top of the list.
          That would be incredibly unwise.

          Carrol's doing this at a bad time for SC. First, Sark could have been promoted had Carrol done this a year ago. Second, the possibility of sanctions seems to be more acute this year.

          I think Jack Del Rio is a very good possibility. He's had some success in the pros and has ties to SC. The question is whether he can recruit. SC kind of sells itself, so unless the guy is a Eric Mangini clone personality wise, he would probably do fine as a recruiter.
          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            I'd definitely have mixed feelings about Whit leaving to USC. First, Utah would have to strike it rich again with a hire out of the MAC/WAC/Conf. USA, etc. I don't want to say Utah was lucky that they hired Meyer, but hiring a head coach from outside the program is definitely hit or miss and I just don't know of any prospect out of 1aa or the MAC that would be intriguing for Utah. And unlike the Meyer departure with Whit sitting in the wings, who had long been thought to be a good HC prospect, I don't know of an assistant at Utah who can be promoted. Although it's far from being a certainty, Utah may not have as much luck with their next hire as they were with the last two.

            So, I'd hate to see one of the big three in the MWC take a big step back due to the quest to become an AQ conference. On the other hand, it would be nice to see BYU string together consecutive wins against Utah.
            If and this is a big if Whit were to get the job at SC, Gary Anderson would be the first person Chris Hill called.
            "Take it to the Bank"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
              The other reason Whit would be perfect for USC is that his record in terms of coaching ethics is impeccable. I guess he did RUTS on Wyoming that year with the on-sides kick.
              Besides picking off a big name like Stoops or going to the pros, I think Whit is one of the better prospects for USC. First, he has head coaching experience which makes him a safer choice than Muschamp out of Texas. Second, he's won a lot of games as a HC. Third, his defenses both as a coordinator and HC have been good. Fourth, his teams typically perform well in big games. Fifth, I don't think there's a big lurking variable that makes him inherently more risky than other college prospects like Chris Petersen (e.g. no prop. 48 players and has played a significantly tougher schedule than Boise).
              Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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              • #22
                For Ute fans it's always a good sign when Kyle's name comes up in a coaching search, and you google Kyle Whittingham news and the first thing that comes up is Jazzy Ute's blog.
                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                --Jonathan Swift

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                • #23
                  Sporting news has Bronco on the short list for the job.

                  Also I think its interesting that Whit had his agent call SC and lobby for the job. Shows that he really wants it and I am sure SC likes that. However what does that say about how his feelings towards Utah?

                  Also I can not think of a single assistant that he could take to SC and not get laughed at.
                  *Banned*

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                    K Whit would be a great choice. Brian Kelly plus plus plus. Riley has turned USC down but USC fans aren't excited about Whit? Who is 3D trying to kid?

                    I think Florida and probably Notre Damewould be a questionable fit for Whit. There's a huge cultural chasm between Gainsville or South Bend and Salt Lake City; he'd need to reestablish recruiting ties, etc. (though a monkey could recruit to Florida or ND). Not USC. USC would be a great fit.

                    3D, your comparison between Whit and Bronco is absurd.
                    Your trolling amongst BYU fans is one thing. Whit's record is a nice record, but winning the SUGAR BOWL is not going to do much to get people overly excited. At most, it makes him viable as a candidate. Does it excite the fanbase? Remains to be seen.

                    I am relaying info to you here from a friend on the inside. Your nonsense here is conjecture and it isn't on point. Your reasons are reasons why KW would enjoy the job. Nobody disputes this. But SC just lost one of the greatest coaches of our era. wtf would anyone get "excited" about whittingham? truthfully, I am not sure there is any coach right now that would be considered "exciting" short of a huge name.

                    I am telling you what I know...Whit is on the short list, Whit's agent has contacted SC (wolfie already confirmed this), and no, there is nothing overly excting about Kyle Whittingham coming to USC. There is a difference between hiring someone that can coach and someone that is exciting. I think he could do a great job here, but in terms of creating a "buzz" in LA.....with Kobe, Phil Jackson and Joe Torre....give me a break. Kyle Whittingham? People here don't even know who he is.

                    Pete owned this city. He was the King of LA.
                    Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      Ute fans with ties to the program.....what do you hear this morning?

                      My friend on campus texted me. The K-Whit rumors are heating up......I think they are going to talk to him. His current contract is what.....around 6M? They could cut a check for that in the blink of an eye.

                      Does anyone have any inside scoopage up on the hill? This could be a VERY interesting week, folks.
                      I have no inside knowledge, but this should pretty much put to bed any belief that KW has some loyalty to the U. and that he would never consider leaving. I think he'll eventually go when the opportunity is right, be it a high level western U.S. college job or the NFL.

                      Ute fans need to get past the thinking that he is a lifer. He's not

                      I think BYU is fortunate in that they do have a draw, the LDS connection, that will keep coaches there in spite of bigger, higher profile offers. I do think Bronco is a lifer.

                      I think the only schools that have "lifers" at H.C. are ND, SC, Texas, Florida, OU. Who else? Maybe Ohio State and Michigan? And BYU. In that regard, BYU is in a very select group.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        Sporting news has Bronco on the short list for the job.

                        Also I think its interesting that Whit had his agent call SC and lobby for the job. Shows that he really wants it and I am sure SC likes that. However what does that say about how his feelings towards Utah?

                        Also I can not think of a single assistant that he could take to SC and not get laughed at.
                        One track mind.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                          If and this is a big if Whit were to get the job at SC, Gary Anderson would be the first person Chris Hill called.
                          I would hope that Chris Hill wouldn't be afraid to call some other folks before he called Gary Andersen.

                          I think Andersen would be back at Utah in a heartbeat. Then again, maybe he'd rather become a hero at USU than be the goat at the U. if things don't maintain... If he turns USU around, he'll have a shot at a bigger gig than Utah, IMO.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                            Your trolling amongst BYU fans is one thing. Whit's record is a nice record, but winning the SUGAR BOWL is not going to do much to get people overly excited. At most, it makes him viable as a candidate. Does it excite the fanbase? Remains to be seen.

                            I am relaying info to you here from a friend on the inside. Your nonsense here is conjecture and it isn't on point. Your reasons are reasons why KW would enjoy the job. Nobody disputes this. But SC just lost one of the greatest coaches of our era. wtf would anyone get "excited" about whittingham? truthfully, I am not sure there is any coach right now that would be considered "exciting" short of a huge name.

                            I am telling you what I know...Whit is on the short list, Whit's agent has contacted SC (wolfie already confirmed this), and no, there is nothing overly excting about Kyle Whittingham coming to USC. There is a difference between hiring someone that can coach and someone that is exciting. I think he could do a great job here, but in terms of creating a "buzz" in LA.....with Kobe, Phil Jackson and Joe Torre....give me a break. Kyle Whittingham? People here don't even know who he is.

                            Pete owned this city. He was the King of LA.
                            No, Whit does not have a fake tan or bleached out hair, he has not had platic surgery all over his face, he does not have a mannered accent or a manicure, and he is not shacking up with a girl less than half his age in a beach house. Nor does he carry suitcases of greenbacks whe he meets with the mamas of fiver star recruits.

                            But do you know what? Right about now the real powers at USC have had a belly full of Pete's schtick. They want someone honest and genuine who is also, as you concede, a proven successful coach at the highest level. Who cares what idiots say on Internet message boards.
                            When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                            --Jonathan Swift

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                              Sporting news has Bronco on the short list for the job.

                              Also I think its interesting that Whit had his agent call SC and lobby for the job. Shows that he really wants it and I am sure SC likes that. However what does that say about how his feelings towards Utah?

                              Also I can not think of a single assistant that he could take to SC and not get laughed at.
                              Speaking of getting lauged at..

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                                On the other hand, it would be nice to see BYU string together consecutive wins against Utah.
                                Seriously, it has been since 2006-07 that the Cougs beat Utah twice in a row. Seems like forever ago.
                                Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                                There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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