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  • #46
    Originally posted by SloanHater View Post
    A friend, and obnoxious Southern Cal fan (yes I know it's redundant), is convinced that USC will bring in a former/current NFL coach. He thinks the biggest draw of athletes to USC is the success they've had getting players to the NFL and that it is a must for USC to model itself as an NFL-lite team. (This hurts candidates like Kyle and Gary, in his opinion.)

    He thinks Del Rio gets the job but Jeff Fisher is his dream pick.
    The advantage of bringing in someone like Del Rio is their connection to other NFL assistants. He'll be able to bring in position coaches from the NFL and put them in as coordinators. That's probably why Garrett supposedly likes NFL experience. Del Rio also knows that his position with Jacksonville is far from secure and he's better off leaving a year early for the best college job in the country as opposed to leaving a year too late. Barring Jon Gruden leaving the booth a year earlier than expected, you'd have to think that Del Rio is the frontrunner with SC.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • #47
      Originally posted by SipiTau View Post
      To tell you the truth, I've got mixed feelings about PC leaving. It was always inevitable, but the timing and the circumstances do make you wonder. My family has had a love/hate relationship with he & some of his staff over the years (I'll post some PC stories later), but that doesn't take away from the the great times I've been able to experience. It was a great run, but they're no longer part of the Trojan Family and it's time to move on.

      What does SC do now? Garrett can't sit on his butt and take his time; signing day is in three weeks. I don't however want him to run out and make a panic hire (Herm Edwards). I thought Riley would have been a great fit; he's considered part of the Trojan Family and is quite popular at Heritage Hall. I can't blame him for not wanting to follow PC as DDD implied, you never want to be the guy that follows the legend.

      I don't know who they bring in, I was hoping that Jeff Fisher would come back home, but that doesn't seem like it will happen. Whitt is an interesting candidate; I think he would work, but I don't think the rest of the alums would have the same opinion.

      I know for a FACT that Chow wants to be back in Cardinal & Gold. I hope whomever is hired makes this his first phone call. That would be great, Chow back at Heritage Hall and FUCLA with out their OC. The wheels fell off when he, Tim Davis, Ed Ogeron & Kennedy Pola left the program.

      I've got to head out, but will post more later.

      Fight On!
      I have a feeling a panic hire is probably inevitable this time. But don't fret necessarily. Pete was a panic hire.
      When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

      --Jonathan Swift

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      • #48
        Originally posted by SloanHater View Post
        A friend, and obnoxious Southern Cal fan (yes I know it's redundant), is convinced that USC will bring in a former/current NFL coach. He thinks the biggest draw of athletes to USC is the success they've had getting players to the NFL and that it is a must for USC to model itself as an NFL-lite team. (This hurts candidates like Kyle and Gary, in his opinion.)

        He thinks Del Rio gets the job but Jeff Fisher is his dream pick.
        Can someone please name a NFL head coach to leave that position to be a head coach in college in the past 10 years? I honestly can't think of one right now which probably means, it rarely happens.
        "Take it to the Bank"

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
          Can someone please name a NFL head coach to leave that position to be a head coach in college in the past 10 years? I honestly can't think of one right now which probably means, it rarely happens.
          Jack Del Rio interviewed with LSU back in 2004.
          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            Jack Del Rio interviewed with LSU back in 2004.
            Was he offered the job and didn't take it? What I am saying is that I don't see someone that is a current NFL head coach dropping down to be a head coach in college. It doesn't happen. I may be wrong though.

            As I type, 2 come to mind. Nick Saben and Bobby Petrino. I am eating my words.
            "Take it to the Bank"

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
              Was he offered the job and didn't take it? What I am saying is that I don't see someone that is a current NFL head coach dropping down to be a head coach in college. It doesn't happen. I may be wrong though.

              As I type, 2 come to mind. Nick Saben and Bobby Petrino. I am eating my words.

              One knew he wasn't going to make it, and the other didn't like the taste. Overall, I think your point still stands.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                Can someone please name a NFL head coach to leave that position to be a head coach in college in the past 10 years? I honestly can't think of one right now which probably means, it rarely happens.
                I understand that Andy Reid would have gone to the BYU without any hesitation.
                "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill


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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                  One knew he wasn't going to make it, and the other didn't like the taste. Overall, I think your point still stands.
                  Thanks Coach. I think it does as well. NFL Head Coaches aren't jumping to leave being a college head coach often so I don't think anyone should assume that will happen in this case.
                  "Take it to the Bank"

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post
                    I understand that Andy Reid would have gone to the BYU without any hesitation.
                    Signed,

                    The people that have ultra thick blue glasses that post on Primary/Cougarboard.
                    "Take it to the Bank"

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                      Was he offered the job and didn't take it? What I am saying is that I don't see someone that is a current NFL head coach dropping down to be a head coach in college. It doesn't happen.
                      But Jack Del Rio isn't Bill Belichick and his position with the Jaguars is tenuous right now. Even though he probably won't be fired yet, he's legitimately on the hot seat. In addition, at least back in 2004, he would have probably made more money as the LSU head coach than what he's making a Jacksonville.

                      I read on this blog The National Football Post, a large part of the players salaries comes directly from the NFL while the coaches' salaries are paid directly by the individual teams. What that means is that the low income teams (and the Jaguars are probably the lowest income team in the league) don't typically pay a lot for coaches.

                      So it could simply be a question of money for Del Rio. And as Carrol has shown, moving "down" to USC may not be much of a move down at all and Del Rio would still have options in the NFL if he's successful at USC.
                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                        One knew he wasn't going to make it, and the other didn't like the taste. Overall, I think your point still stands.
                        Del Rio is in a similar situation right now and I'd say that Saban was on more solid footing than Del Rio is right now (and you're probably saying that Saban was the one that "didn't like the taste.") I think their situations are similar.
                        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                          But Jack Del Rio isn't Bill Belichick and his position with the Jaguars is tenuous right now. Even though he probably won't be fired yet, he's legitimately on the hot seat. In addition, at least back in 2004, he would have probably made more money as the LSU head coach than what he's making a Jacksonville.

                          I read on this blog The National Football Post, a large part of the players salaries comes directly from the NFL while the coaches' salaries are paid directly by the individual teams. What that means is that the low income teams (and the Jaguars are probably the lowest income team in the league) don't typically pay a lot for coaches.

                          So it could simply be a question of money for Del Rio. And as Carrol has shown, moving "down" to USC may not be much of a move down at all and Del Rio would still have options in the NFL if he's successful at USC.
                          The Jags are really hurting right now financially. I see what you are saying with Del Rio.
                          "Take it to the Bank"

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            I have a feeling a panic hire is probably inevitable this time. But don't fret necessarily. Pete was a panic hire.
                            Isn't that the truth, I remember Jim Rome calling SC, USCC and that coaches couldn't pull their name out of consideration fast enough. That was not a place people wanted to be in December 2000.

                            They courted Bellotti last time the job was open, he is more available now than then.
                            Get confident, stupid
                            -landpoke

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                            • #59
                              Fisher already said no. He is staying at Tennessee.

                              There is credence to wanting to bring in NFL ties. It isn't just with football...SC likes hiring coaches with pro experience.....they hired Michael Cooper, they hired Tim Floyd, they hired Pete Carroll, they hired Chad Kreuter. There is definitely something to that theory.

                              SipiTau, please post often (and not just because of this recent state of affairs at Heritage).
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Hot Lunch View Post
                                Can someone please name a NFL head coach to leave that position to be a head coach in college in the past 10 years? I honestly can't think of one right now which probably means, it rarely happens.
                                I can't think of his name, but the Falcons coach two years ago who bailed quickly to go back to college. What about Spurrier. Not the same, but he clearly preferred the college game over the NFL. Al Grogh left the Jets to go to Virgina if I remember correctly. I'm sure there are others, but that's off the top of my head. Oh, and Nick Saban. That turned out ok for Alabama.
                                A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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