Chris > Kyle > Gary > Bronco

[Goatnapper'96]

Winning 43 out of your last 52 games and finishing in the top 25 four straight years doesn't sell your program? We're getting LDS players now that we were losing to BCS schools very, very recently and even a couple of non-LDS players that fit that category.

We are having a huge banner year, but I am not convinced it will be the norm even with the LDS kids. In a normal year BYU would have landed a few of the good LDS DL and OL prospects, but this year BYU had the nation's top QB leading the recruiting pitch and the top defensive prospect was an assistant coach's son. I just look at the crop and see some anomalies/good luck events, I think Tayo Fabulije is a perfect example. Here is a spectacular prospect who just happens to be living with an LDS family who just happens to have a son that is a spectacular prospect who just happened to be recruited to BYU by the nations top qb prospect. Without Heaps recruiting Apo there is no Tayo at BYU.

That said, an anomaly class can go a long way to cementing more of a program.

The nonLDS dbs are the ones I am the most excited about. Mendenhall got a few of those in 2007. Then attrition decimated the trend, but he did an admirable job of rebuilding it through JC in 2009 and lets hope that the 2010 kids can make it longer than G. Pittman did.

[SloanHater]

Let's not get off topic. Do you think Chris Petersen could have taken BYU's team to a BCS game?

[ERCougar]

Let's not get off topic. Do you think Chris Petersen could have taken BYU's team to a BCS game?

Good question and no.

I still don't think BSU would have beaten TCU in the regular season. TCU looked really sloppy.

[Goatnapper'96]

Let's not get off topic. Do you think Chris Petersen could have taken BYU's team to a BCS game?

No. I think he might have won one more game but I think that with BYU's talent and schedule this year he would have lost at least one. I think Peterson's history indicates BYU would have performed better against FSU.

I do think Peterson is a better coach though.

[kccougar]

And yes, I would say how a team performs in its first game, and the adjustments made it that game, are a great indicator of a coach's ability.

Tulane (W) 70-35
Syracuse (W) 42-31
Georgia Tech (W) 24-13
Notre Dame (W) 20-17

Gary Crowton was an awesome head coach.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

No. I think he might have won one more game but I think that with BYU's talent and schedule this year he would have lost at least one. I think Peterson's history indicates BYU would have performed better against FSU.

I do think Peterson is a better coach though.

As fans from the SEC/Pac 10/Big 12/Big 10 say after their team's been beaten by BYU/Utah/TCU/BSU, it's easy for these teams to get up for one or two games a year but they couldn't get through the weekly grind of a schedule from one of these conferences. I hate to say it, but there could be some truth to that.

Just consider that the 2nd or 3rd best team from the WAC, Fresno State, couldn't beat the 5th place team from the MWC. Fresno State is usually the toughest or second toughest game on BSU's conference schedule. So, I have to wonder how BSU would do if they played BYU, Utah, TCU and even Air Force and Wyoming every year. I'm not sold that they would have the same consistency that, say, TCU and BYU has had over the past four years.

[Art Vandelay]

My apologies to SU. I planned to stay out of the Stadium today, but saw this thread title on the main screen and thought "What is Seattle up to now". To my surprise he had nothing to do with this discussion.

EDIT: After reading the post 2 below obviously SU's thread would have been Kyle>>>Chris>Gary>>>Bronco...I feel so dumb.

[Goatnapper'96]

As fans from the SEC/Pac 10/Big 12/Big 10 say after their team's been beaten by BYU/Utah/TCU/BSU, it's easy for these teams to get up for one or two games a year but they couldn't get through the weekly grind of a schedule from one of these conferences. I hate to say it, but there could be some truth to that.

Just consider that the 2nd or 3rd best team from the WAC, Fresno State, couldn't beat the 5th place team from the MWC. Fresno State is usually the toughest or second toughest game on BSU's conference schedule. So, I have to wonder how BSU would do if they played BYU, Utah, TCU and even Air Force and Wyoming every year. I'm not sold that they would have the same consistency that, say, TCU and BYU has had over the past four years.

There is more than truth to it, there is historical precedent with ASU. It doesn't matter and IMO BSU has as much claim to the NC as any the winner of Texas and Alabama. If the big boys want to back up their claim invite BSU and lets see how it turns out. I suspect we would see BSU in far fewer BCS bowl games, but I base that on how it turned out for ASU.

Saying that Chris Peterson is an absolutely spectacular college head coach and better, IMO, than Patterson, Mendenhall or Whittingham.

[SeattleUte]

I think Petersen established that he is currently the best mid-major head coach and possibly the best coach in the nation.

Because he beat TCU? LOL. You're nuts. Whit has done more.

[Indy Coug]

Because he beat TCU? LOL. You're nuts. Whit has done more.

Nonsense. Besides, Peterson is 49-4 with three undefeated regular seasons, so it is because of a lot more than simply beating TCU.

[Surfah]

When do tickets go on sale?

Not sure.

[Moliere]

Because he beat TCU? LOL. You're nuts. Whit has done more.

Peterson has a better overall record and more BCS wins that Whit. Peterson is the better coach and it's not even debatable (except on internet message boards).

[SeattleUte]

Nonsense. Besides, Peterson is 49-4 with three undefeated regular seasons, so it is because of a lot more than simply beating TCU.

On a WAC schedule.

Here's the formula for you people. If a coach 1) beats BYU or recently beat a team that beat the bejesus out of BYU, 2) went undefeated this year, 3) isn't Utah's coach, he's literally God incarnate. The greatest thing since sliced bread. You're all so predictable. Last week Gary Patterson WAS THE GREATEST EVER. Now it's Christ Peterson. You never learn. Your attention spans are like toddlers

[SloanHater]

Tulane (W) 70-35
Syracuse (W) 42-31
Georgia Tech (W) 24-13
Notre Dame (W) 20-17

Gary Crowton was an awesome head coach.

Nice attempt, but you are simply validating my point. The first game of the season is a direct reflection of a coach's offseason work. A good coach can maintain that level of preparation while making adjustments week in and week out.

A Great coach does it over the course of a season AND in the postseason.

[Goatnapper'96]

Because he beat TCU? LOL. You're nuts. Whit has done more.

I would really like to see Peterson and Whit square off in a game. I'll bet even if Whit had the 3rd best qb his program has had in the past 30 years (judging by NFL longevity) Peterson could beat Whit in SLC by 30 points. What kind of outcome do you forsee in such a game?