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Originally posted by LA Ute
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lame. this attitude is what feeds the problem. travel around to other games and check it out. you might be surprised how many schools are actually cordial to their visitors. not all, but many. Makes a big difference. sounds like you endorse the poor behavior because it is a "rivalry."Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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¡Gnomo!Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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You'll have to forgive Ute fans they just got interested in college football 6 years ago so they have a limited sample size. You'd think after the cordial treatment they received at the hands of the Alabama fans despite their team's beatdown they'd think twice before saying stupid things but alas...it's in their DNA to act persecuted and disrespected. Ironic, isn't it?Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post"Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault
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Today's drunk-Ute-fan story is brought to you by the Deseret News:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...riendlier.html
From the pride of Helper:As BYU linebacker Matt Bauman trudged off the field at Rice-Eccles Stadium last November, a delirious Utah fan accosted him and threw a cup of beer in his face, Bauman says.
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Bauman, a Skyline High product, grew up around the rivalry. In fact, he and his family used to be Utah fans — "My whole family has converted to the Y.," he explained — and his wife attended the U.
Sheesh. You Ute fans should be ashamed."I've heard some horror stories about what happened last year of our fans going up north to that game," said Jorgensen, a Helper native. "Some of the things I've heard are downright ridiculous. You should never treat people the way they were treated over a football game. I'm not saying our fans are angels and don't do some of the same things. I'm just pointing out those things that I've heard. It's sad the way things have turned out at times. It detracts from the rivalry. I don't know why that kind of stuff happens. I don't know why people would make it so personal. It does take away from what actually happens on the field.""There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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The Beer Ninja!!!Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
I almost forgot about this story until I read the recent thread. Think about what it would take:
(1) pour one beer into a cup or container undetected (remember zoobs, alcohol is not sold at RES);
(2) make your way down to the first row of the stadium, assuming your seats are anywhere above row 1,again undetected;
(3) jump the wall (what is it, 6 or so feet?);
(4) gather yourself and your cup of beer as you run on to the field (I would argue 99.9 % of the time, you lose whatever drink is in your hand without a lid);
(5) avoid any contact with other fans (impossible as anyone who has rushed the field can tell you); and finally
(6) identify your favorite zoob target and let fly.
I suppose an alternative theory, equally unlikely, is that you kept a can of suds in your pocket the entire game (why?), somehow manage to crack it open at just the right time, pour (with little to no head for effect), identify zoob, and throw.
The most obvious flaw in this story is that no one smuggles in beer to games. Unless you have some way of hiding a 12 pack or so (don't tell them about the secret RES kegs) it doesn't make sense. If the story involved an empty flask that some one threw at a zoob, I might believe it. Like most stories involving alcohol horrors at the U, it is obvious they have no idea what they are talking about.Last edited by Mormon Red Death; 11-24-2009, 08:00 AM."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
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Dude you are a horrible troll. You should just quit while you are only behind a little. I'd hate for you to start forcing things.Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post"The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
"They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."
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Im not going as far as suggesting that this is a Ute-centric phenomenon. BUt LA Ute's contention that poor behavior is acceptable against one's rival is exemplary of the knuckle-headedness that typifies rivalry games.Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
I don't get the point of yelling negative things at people as they walk from the parking lot to the stadium. Why not be cool to visitors on campus?
The same goes for guests that show up and act belligerently and disrespectful. What is the point of that? It is always much more fun to crash some tailgates, mingle with opposing fans, talk about the game, check out the game day traditions at that school, etc.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Why let the truth get in the way of a good story?Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creeksterComment
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Actually, I don't know if Bauman himself said it was beer, but he did get a full drink thrown in his face last year. It was caught on camera."It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IVComment
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Yeah, no one smuggles in beer to games. You hear me, NO ONE! I've been to RES (2000 & 2002) and there was plenty of beer and other alcoholic beverages being consumed on the premises.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
My favorite memory after the 2000 game (LaVell's last miracle) was watching a couple exit the gate. The guy had his wife on his back and was literally carrying her while her feet were dragging on the ground. She was just sober enough to yell "BYU still sucks!" as they lumbered through the exit."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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My first story:
My second story:Originally posted by kccougar
A couple years later I was a student at the U and I remember getting to the stadium early, on the east side where the BYU Band and Cougarettes were unloading from their buses. They basically had to walk a gauntlet of Ute fans screaming some downright nasty things at them, particularly at the girls."It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IVComment
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Exactly I was with DDD last year as we walked down to the stadium and he can verify how crazy Ute fans got with a few in our group. Including a few near fights breaking out and just down right hatred from Utefans.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
I still remember this guy running up over this little hill and going batshit crazy.Last edited by cougjunkie; 11-24-2009, 09:21 AM.*Banned*Comment
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Was that before or after the BYU player (I've forgotten his name) started punching Utah fans?Originally posted by kccougar View Post“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-ExuperyComment
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He was probably on PCPOriginally posted by cougjunkie View Post"The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
"They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."
"I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."
-Rick MajerusComment
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I really don't get the mindset that "Meh, both sides engage in terrible behavior, so what?"
While I really, really enjoy watching BYU beat Utah and really, really hate watching Utah beat BYU, I have never, ever felt the need to yell at Utah fans at LES. They're fans, just like me, and most of them are decent people.
Anyone who feels the need to yell offensive things at other fans needs a reality check, IMO.Comment
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