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    Halftime yesterday, Coach Whit faced a crossroads. He could stick with the status quo and in all likelihood win. Down 7 at halftime at home against Wyoming is not too scary a scenario for this Ute team. The safe thing to do would have been to maintain the status quo. In all likelihood Cain would have led them back from behind as did Wynn. He'd done it before agaisnt greater odds. Actually, replacing Cain with an untested true freshman probably reduced the odds of a Ute comback. (I've been reading for a year on these boards that starting a true freshman qb is like giving up, calling it a rebuilding year; how much more true is this addage when you're down 7 at the half with a no. 16 ranking and undefeated conference record and 7-1 start on the line?)

    So why did he do it? Why did Whit roll the dice and replace Cain--fresh off a dramatic overtime win against that perpetual thorn in the side Air Force--with a true freshman? Here's why. Whit did it because while in all likelihood Cain would have led the from behind to beat Wyoming it's been looking in all likelihood like he won't lead the Utes over TCU.

    Whit is not content to settle for 10-2 and an invite to Backwater Bowl vs. Bo Diddly Tech BYU-style. He figures, maybe Wynne can do it--Wynne, with that pro-style game release, targeting that magnificent receiving corps, and the defense that is finally jelling. Maybe just maybe. . . . So he rolled the dice. What did he have to lose?

    I would never question a Whittingham football decision from where I sit. But my gut tells me Wynne is already penned in as the starter against winless New Mexico. Why not? See if the kid an throw for 300 hundred yards against a terrible New Mexico team. This may be their best chance at another great year.

    A good quarterback's effect on the team isn't just measured in yards. Statistically, Cain had the better half. But Wynn outscored him 19-3.

    At least we know Whitt won't easily settle for or be content with 10-2 and the Backwater Bowl a la Bronco.

    (NOTE: This analysis is not entirely original. Newmanscott22, not one of my favorite posters, I confess, said something like this last night. I think he nailed it.)
    Last edited by SeattleUte; 11-03-2009, 08:28 AM.
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    Whit pulled Cain and replaced him with Wynn because he knows that former JC quarterbacks are not that good.
    "Take it to the Bank"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
      Halftime yesterday, Coach Whit faced a crossroads. He could stick with the status quo and in all likelihood win. Down 7 at halftime at home against Wyoming is not too scary a scenario for this Ute team. The safe thing to do would have been to maintain the status quo. In all likelihood Cain would have led them back from behind as did Wynne. He'd done it before agaisnt greater odds. Actually, replacing Cain with an untested true freshman probably reduced the odds of a Ute comback. (I've been reading for a year on these boards that starting a true freshman qb is like giving up, calling it a rebuilding year; how much more true is this addage when you're down 7 at the half with a no. 16 ranking and undefeated conference record and 7-1 start on the line?)

      So why did he do it? Why did Whit roll the dice and replace Cain--fresh off a dramatic overtime win against that perpetual thorn in the side Air Force--with a true freshman? Here's why. Whit did it because while in all likelihood Cain would have led the from behind to beat Wyoming it's been looking in all likelihood like he won't lead the Utes over TCU.

      Whit is not content to settle for 10-2 and an invite to Backwater Bowl vs. Bo Diddly Tech BYU-style. He figures, maybe Wynne can do it--Wynne, with that pro-style game release, targeting that magnificent receiving corps, and the defense that is finally jelling. Maybe just maybe. . . . So he rolled the dice. What did he have to lose?

      I would never question a Whittingham football decision from where I sit. But my gut tells me Wynne is already penned in as the starter against winless New Mexico. Why not? See if the kid an throw for 300 hundred yards against a terrible New Mexico team. This may be their best chance at another great year.

      A good quarterback's effect on the team isn't just measured in yards. Statistically, Cain had the better half. But Wynne outscored him 19-3.

      At least we know Whitt won't easily settle for or be content with 10-2 and the Backwater Bowl a la Bronco.

      (NOTE: This analysis is not entirely original. Newmanscott22, not one of my favorite posters, I confess, said something like this last night. I think he nailed it.)
      uh so he waited till now to start him, 2 weeks before TCU because cain wont beat TCU, but he couldnt have started him at the beginning of the game, or last week, or the week before?

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      • #4
        Whitt is obsessed with beating BYU. He has decided his best chance to beat BYU is with a QB who throws the ball.

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        • #5
          Whit doesn't seem like a guy who will accept mediocre play or coaching. He's fearless about switching it up. I also think that he may have wanted to give Cain a bit of a wakeup call that he needs to work harder and kick it up a notch.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by byu71 View Post
            Whitt is obsessed with beating BYU. He has decided his best chance to beat BYU is with a QB who throws the ball.
            He's been saving Wynn just for BYU. I knew it all along.
            "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
            "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post


              Whit is not content to settle for 10-2 and an invite to Backwater Bowl vs. Bo Diddly Tech BYU-style.

              At least we know Whitt won't easily settle for or be content with 10-2 and the Backwater Bowl a la Bronco.

              Nope. Not ol' Whittypants. Just 9-3 and a Poinsettia appearance. Good for him.

              (Hey good job averting that Cowboy scare at home. Glad to see the onside kick wasn't in order... come to think of it, that's never off the table for that asshole, is it?)
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              • #8
                I agree, SU, that it was a fantastic decision. I don't like seeing Ute backups in their first start against BYU. Now we get a little film on Wynne (sp?), he won't have any significant experience by the time he faces either TCU or us, and your QB situation is up in the air halfway through the season. Brilliant.

                Geez, SU, you're like the hardest core FAIR apologist--even your boy's mistakes are "genius".
                At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                • #9
                  My favorite line:
                  Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  Down 7 at halftime at home against Wyoming is not too scary a scenario for this Ute team.
                  At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
                  -Berry Trammel, 12/3/10

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                    Whitt is obsessed with beating BYU. He has decided his best chance to beat BYU is with a QB who throws the ball.
                    That could very well be. But a mobile QB has given BYU fits as well. so have throwing QBs.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ERCougar View Post
                      I agree, SU, that it was a fantastic decision. I don't like seeing Ute backups in their first start against BYU. Now we get a little film on Wynne (sp?), he won't have any significant experience by the time he faces either TCU or us, and your QB situation is up in the air halfway through the season. Brilliant.

                      Geez, SU, you're like the hardest core FAIR apologist--even your boy's mistakes are "genius".
                      BYU fans would welcome the opportunity to only have 1 loss and a #14 BCS ranking at this point in the season and a BCS bowl win and undefeated season last year. And as for Utah, enjoy it now, for in 2 weeks you face TCU.
                      Last edited by Hallelujah; 11-02-2009, 07:26 AM.

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                      • #12
                        This decision is a Rorschach test.

                        BYU fans can look at it and say "the yewt coaches are desperate! their team is in disarray!"

                        Ute fans can look at it and say "we were right, Jordan Wynn is just like Alex Smith! The offense looked just like it did at the end of 2008 with him in there!"

                        The truth is this team's always been predicated on defense and the ground game. Except for the 2nd half of the Colorado St game, we haven't really needed much from the QB spot. And except for the 2nd half of the Colorado St game, we haven't really gotten much from the QB spot.

                        As long as Wynn takes care of the ball, Utah will split TCU and BYU, win their bowl game, finish the season ranked, and go into next year with a guy who could be our starter for three years.
                        "I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
                        "Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute

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                        • #13
                          What's funny is that Cain actually passed the ball better than Wynn in the
                          Wyoming game.

                          10-13 121 > 9-14 92
                          I'm like LeBron James.
                          -mpfunk

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                            What's funny is that Cain actually passed the ball better than Wynn in the
                            Wyoming game.

                            10-13 121 > 9-14 92
                            True, but only Wynn's were for touchdowns.

                            Who's to say that Cain wouldn't have thrown those TD's as well? I don't know. But at least Wynn didn't take any bad sacks.

                            U-Ute

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                            • #15
                              Cain was benched because he had two sacks that put utah out of fg range. He had the same problems all year. Whit has given cain a fair shot. Utah is going to vegas or san diego whether they lose both byu and tcu or win them. Utah can beat sdsu and new mexico with a freshman qb. Whit saw the writing on the wall and can get his starter for the next three years some good experience. Whit is prepping for next year.
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