NBA 2013-2014

[Donuthole]

Let's also not ignore the fact that college basketball was better at the time. More of the best players were staying 2-3 years, not the 1 and done that Fredette was facing up against.

Actually, players were able to skip college and go straight to the NBA.

[MarkGrace]

Is anyone else from that BYU Sweet Sixteen team even playing in Europe?

Hartsock
Abouo
Emery
Collinsworth (injured - missed 28 games)
Collinsworth
Magnusson
Zylstra
Anderson
Rogers
Martineau
Winder (redshirt)
Carlino (redshirt)

Don't know, but I bet CJ does! I actually looked up Alex Jensen, because I thought he ended up being drafted from that team as well, or at least played a year or two in the NBA. He didn't, but did play several years in Europe. He was also way better as a collegian than any of the guys you just listed.

[cougjunkie]

Ouch.

Funk was just absolutely bitch slapped by that post. Game Over.

[cougjunkie]

Don't know, but I bet CJ does! I actually looked up Alex Jensen, because I thought he ended up being drafted from that team as well or at least playing a year or two in the NBA. He didn't, but did play several years in Europe. He was also way better as a collegian than any of the guys you just listed.

Hartsock had a 3 month stint in Belgium and is now coaching the team.
Abouo is playing in one of the lower level European leagues.

That is it.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Good point. Kobe, T-Mac and KG were absolutely dominating college basketball during Miller's time.

At least the best players were playing in college when Fredette was at BYU.

1995: 1 high school player in the first round
1996: 2 high school players drafted in the first round
1997: 1 high school player drafted in the first round
1998: 1 high school player drafted in the first round

You are right that makes such a huge difference with an average of just over 1 player not playing college hoops during that time period. Now go look at those drafts and see how more and more of the lottery players were at least playing 2 years.

[cougjunkie]

1995: 1 high school player in the first round
1996: 2 high school players drafted in the first round
1997: 1 high school player drafted in the first round
1998: 1 high school player drafted in the first round

You are right that makes such a huge difference with an average of just over 1 player not playing college hoops during that time period. Now go look at those drafts and see how more and more of the lottery players were at least playing 2 years.

1995- Kevin Garnett
1996- Kobe Bryant and Jermaine O'neal
1997- Tracy Mcgrady
1998- Al Harrington

I agree that none of these players would have made any difference in the NCAA landscape during that time.

[smokymountainrain]

1995: 1 high school player in the first round
1996: 2 high school players drafted in the first round
1997: 1 high school player drafted in the first round
1998: 1 high school player drafted in the first round

You are right that makes such a huge difference with an average of just over 1 player not playing college hoops during that time period. Now go look at those drafts and see how more and more of the lottery players were at least playing 2 years.

In light of this conversation, it is funny that Miller was beaten out for POY by a sophomore, while Jimmer's main competition was another senior.

[TripletDaddy]

In light of this conversation, it is funny that Miller was beaten out for POY by a sophomore, while Jimmer's main competition was another senior.

a senior that went undefeated through the big east tourney then won the national championship. Wright was good. Jimmer was better.

[MarkGrace]

1995- Kevin Garnett
1996- Kobe Bryant and Jermaine O'neal
1997- Tracy Mcgrady
1998- Al Harrington

I agree that none of these players would have made any difference in the NCAA landscape during that time.

lol

[MartyFunkhouser]

Funk was just absolutely bitch slapped by that post. Game Over.

Except where you actually look at the draft and find out that in that period of time very few players actually skipped the draft and went to the NBA.

[MartyFunkhouser]

1995- Kevin Garnett
1996- Kobe Bryant and Jermaine O'neal
1997- Tracy Mcgrady
1998- Al Harrington

I agree that none of these players would have made any difference in the NCAA landscape during that time.

Never said none of them would have made a difference, but players were playing longer in college during that time. Vince Carter and Jameson (a team that Utah beat because of Miller's fantastic game against) were both juniors.

[cougjunkie]

Never said none of them would have made a difference, but players were playing longer in college during that time. Vince Carter and Jameson (a team that Utah beat because of Miller's fantastic game against) were both juniors.

I doubt T-mac playing at UNC would have helped much.

Kobe at Duke with Elton Brand, again I am sure Utah still cruises.

[MartyFunkhouser]

1996 lottery: Iverson (sophmore); Camby (Junior); Sharief Abdur-Rahim (freshman); Marbury (freshman); Allen (junior); Antoine Walker (sophomore): Wright (sophomore); Kittles (senior); Samaki Walker (sophomore): Erick Dampier (junior); Todd Fuller (senior); Potapenko (junior); Bryant (high school); and, Stojokovic (Europe)

1997 lottery: Duncan (senior); Van Horn (Senior); Billups (sophomore); Daniels (senior); Battie (Junior); Mercer (sophomore); Thomas (freshman); Foyle (junior); McGrady (high school); Fortson (junior); Abdul-Wahad (senior); Croshere (senior); and, Derek Anderson (senior)

1998 lottery: Olowakandi (senior); Bibby (sophomore); Jamisons (junior); Carter (junior); Traylor (junior); Williams (junior); Hughes (freshman); Nowitzki (Europe); Pierce (junior); Wells (senior); Doleac (senior); Clark (senior); and Dickerson (senior);

1999 lottery: Brand (sophomore); Francis (junior); Davis (sophomore); Odom (freshman); Bender (high school - missed this one before); Szcerbiak (senior); Miller (senior); Marion (junior); Terry (senior); Langdon (senior); Rodjevic (sophomore); Maggette (freshman); Avery (sophomore).

Yes there were a few players going straight from high school, but the best players were staying in college longer.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I doubt T-mac playing at UNC would have helped much.

Kobe at Duke with Elton Brand, again I am sure Utah still cruises.

Utah never played Duke. I guess if Kobe was at Duke with Elton Brand, Utah probably plays Duke instead of THEM in the finals.

T-Mac on UNC, absolutely makes them better, but that was already a stacked team that Utah beat.

[Blueintheface]

And with that I think we can put a cap on this thread and start the 2014-2015 thread.