"You Gotta Love It Baby" Official Jazz thread

[Hot Lunch]

Uh, Luther Head. Only an idiot would turn down Head for Nate Robinson.

There are very few things in this world that I would take over Head.

[SloanHater]

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I respect the effort, though.

You obviously don't respect context. Nice cherry picking though. Things transpired the way they did because of one man, Greg Miller.

Greg wasn't content to simply match Mathews deal. Had this been Larry, he would have talked to Sloan and done everything I said they would.

So stop gloating like the immature asshole you are and be glad that someone other than Sloan is running the show now.

[edit] Too, the Raja signing was a great get. Raja will provide the mature leadership that Deron is still learning. Now if only the Jazz could convince RJ to sign.

[falafel]

Greg wasn't content to simply match Mathews deal. Had this been Larry, he would have talked to Sloan and done everything I said they would.

Wait, so there was a condition on your unconditional statement that the Jazz would match Matthew's offer at all costs? And that condition was that your statement was only true if a DEAD MAN was running the team?

You've been wrong numerous times in this thread. Anyone else on this board (or anyone with an ounce of humility) would have admitted he was wrong instead of braying like an ass for 2 more pages.

[Hot Lunch]

You obviously don't respect context. Nice cherry picking though. Things transpired the way they did because of one man, Greg Miller.

Greg wasn't content to simply match Mathews deal. Had this been Larry, he would have talked to Sloan and done everything I said they would.

So stop gloating like the immature asshole you are and be glad that someone other than Sloan is running the show now.

[edit] Too, the Raja signing was a great get. Raja will provide the mature leadership that Deron is still learning. Now if only the Jazz could convince RJ to sign.

So tell us what your thoughts are on getting Head. Would that be a good thing?

[byu71]

So tell us what your thoughts are on getting Head. Would that be a good thing?

I remember an old saying, "getting two heads is better than getting one" or something like that.

[MarkGrace]

You obviously don't respect context. Nice cherry picking though.

Context and cherry picking? You shouldn't have made absolute statements knowing that everything is contingent upon a variable set of circumstances. Not my fault.

[falafel]

I remember an old saying, "getting two heads is better than getting one" or something like that.

At the same time?

[Jacob]

Happened to be in the car during the Al Jefferson press conference:

1. KOC and Rigby are not good public speakers and I'm glad they kept their comments short.

2. Much more importantly, Jefferson sounded great. He was very gracious and very excited to be in Utah. He said that he could barely believe it when he was told about it, that the basketball God's were smiling on him, and that he was excited to work as hard as he can and excited for training camp.

3. Winning is important to him. I can imagine how he feels after being on bad teams for his entire career (6 years). This is the factor that is so exciting for him. He will finally be playing in the playoffs instead of sitting on his couch wishing he were.

I was very impressed and I think he immediately endeared himself to a lot of Jazz fans just during his 1 minute speech following his announcement. At least he did to me.

And while this has nothing to do with the press conference, he's been in the league 6 years and is only 25. He is entering his prime, and if he is fully recovered, we'll be seeing his best play yet, while we've already seen Boozer's best it proved wanting.

Jefferson has me irrationally excited about this next year. Rationally, there is no say this team is worse than last year (excepting injuries).

[Jacob]

I'd love for the Jazz to pick up a solid wing player; and if they do, they should consider starting AK and Jefferson with Millsap coming in off the bench.

But, as it stands, we don't have any good wings, and AK should start alongside Sap and Jefferson.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

There were a lot of things worth talking about the past two days on 1320, between CJ's interview, Locke's breakdown of Jefferson's video, and some KOC comments. But one thing I've been wondering about today is Locke saying that in the limited number of pick and roll situations that Jefferson was involved in last year, he almost always rolled off the pick instead of popping out for the jumper.

I think he'll come to learn a little variation in the coming season, but having a big that views that as his primary option of the SnR brings back some advantages with this roster:

- It will better limit the attention paid to Deron by the opposing big involved in the SnR, or it will make for an easier pass to the diving Jefferson.

- It will help magnify some of the strengths in Hayward's game. I think one think he certainly brings to the court is a great ability to read what the defense is doing and what his offensive scheme allows to counter that. I think he'll end up in spots allowing for open shots or for him to collect the assist leading to an easy hoop off a defensive scramble.

- It puts the team in a much better situation for an offensive rebound, should the original play result in a jumper by Deron, Memo, or one of the wings (sorry, redundant there I guess, not including Memo in with the wings). Jefferson is tough to move, great at carving out space around the basket. Jefferson's off reb % has been about 1.5% higher over his career than Boozer's.

There will certainly be times when Boozer's read off the SnR leading to an easy jumper will be missed, but that may still prove to be something Jefferson can add to his game.

[MarkGrace]

There were a lot of things worth talking about the past two days on 1320, between CJ's interview, Locke's breakdown of Jefferson's video, and some KOC comments. But one thing I've been wondering about today is Locke saying that in the limited number of pick and roll situations that Jefferson was involved in last year, he almost always rolled off the pick instead of popping out for the jumper.

I think he'll come to learn a little variation in the coming season, but having a big that views that as his primary option of the SnR brings back some advantages with this roster:

- It will better limit the attention paid to Deron by the opposing big involved in the SnR, or it will make for an easier pass to the diving Jefferson.

- It will help magnify some of the strengths in Hayward's game. I think one think he certainly brings to the court is a great ability to read what the defense is doing and what his offensive scheme allows to counter that. I think he'll end up in spots allowing for open shots or for him to collect the assist leading to an easy hoop off a defensive scramble.

- It puts the team in a much better situation for an offensive rebound, should the original play result in a jumper by Deron, Memo, or one of the wings (sorry, redundant there I guess, not including Memo in with the wings). Jefferson is tough to move, great at carving out space around the basket. Jefferson's off reb % has been about 1.5% higher over his career than Boozer's.

There will certainly be times when Boozer's read off the SnR leading to an easy jumper will be missed, but that may still prove to be something Jefferson can add to his game.

I posted Locke's breakdown of Jefferson's SnR touches on pg. 128 -- he mentions some of these same things. It's probably worth reading if you haven't already.

[MarkGrace]

On second thought, maybe you already read it. From your comments I thought it was something he was talking about on the radio and you might have missed the blog post he made.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

I hadn't seen it. I was going off the discussion he was having yesterday on the radio, where it appears he was probably just reading off that blog he wrote.

He kept emphasizing over and over and over that the Jazz don't run SnR nearly as much as "people believe". What does that even mean? What people is he talking about, and how often do they believe the Jazz run it? I don't know if he was trying to say we shouldn't worry about Jefferson not being as good at it as Malone or Boozer have been because we really don't do it that much.

Maybe he's comparing how much the Jazz run it as compared to when Stock/Malone were around, and maybe the Jazz do run it less than that. But it still is a primary set with many options off of it, so Jefferson will have to learn to be very proficient at running it with Deron.

[Sizzle]

I like to be in the paint. That's where we get nasty at. That's when you become a man.

Al Jefferson at his press conference today. Me gusta. Muchicimo.

[MarkGrace]

He kept emphasizing over and over and over that the Jazz don't run SnR nearly as much as "people believe". What does that even mean? What people is he talking about, and how often do they believe the Jazz run it? I don't know if he was trying to say we shouldn't worry about Jefferson not being as good at it as Malone or Boozer have been because we really don't do it that much.

I got what he meant. It reminded me of a discussion with DDD from a while back where he was of the impression that the Jazz ran the SnR on just about every play, and that seems to be the idea that many have. In reality, Sloan's offense is motion, and the Jazz are running that much more often than the 1-4/5 SnR's. Yet when people talk about Utah basketball you hear much less about motion than you do the SnR. There seems to be this dominant opinion that they are using it about every time down the floor, when it is probably more a situational play than anything. The Lakers run SnR's as often as the Jazz do (many teams do, really), but the Jazz are much more notorious for it than just about any other team.