BYU women's volleyball - 2022

[Non Sequitur]

Huh. Gneiting was great her freshman year and every year since. But she does seem zeroed in even more this year.

She was a great blocker but pretty one-dimensional. She relied mostly on her size. She's much more athletic now and a much better all-around player.

[Art Vandelay]

She was a great blocker but pretty one-dimensional. She relied mostly on her size. She's much more athletic now and a much better all-around player.

Could I get an irony ruling? Someone doubling down on a GM post, and it’s not the Red Sox fan. Go figure

[Joe Public]

I haven't followed the story carefully, having learned early on to avoid the discussion on CB, but has anyone else (notably other Duke players) stated they also heard the racial epithets or the threat by the "fan" who followed her after the match? I don't think the Duke player is lying, but I also think it's possible she misunderstood, not unreasonably given the volume of the student section and a justifiable tendency to perceive harm.

My understanding is that there has been zero corroboration by other Duke players/staff, including the other players on the court with her, by the police/security person the school immediately placed in the area, by the multiple ROC leaders who fanned out through the area, or by the video review staff that scoured footage of the time and place of the alleged incident.

[Lost Student]

My understanding is that there has been zero corroboration by other Duke players/staff, including the other players on the court with her, by the police/security person the school immediately placed in the area, by the multiple ROC leaders who fanned out through the area, or by the video review staff that scoured footage of the time and place of the alleged incident.

Also nothing from the Duke athletic department official placed right next to the BYU cop during the last two sets.

[LiveCoug]

I'm usually pretty progressive when it comes to cultural/race issues, but this one I can't get behind. When it first was reported, I was incredibly disappointed and had no reason not to believe her exact account. Obviously, at this point it really seems like, at best, she misheard something.

Now I find myself disappointed whenever BYU is attacked over the incident. Sigh. People are gonna believe what they believe in spite of evidence or lack thereof. Oh well.

[Green Monstah]

She was a great blocker but pretty one-dimensional. She relied mostly on her size. She's much more athletic now and a much better all-around player.

She didn't have the Eschenberg's hops, but I'm fairly certain she was the ACVA (or whatever the name of the entity is) Newcomer of the Year.

Kills by year for Fr., So., Jr. years (progressive): 225, 226, 227
Digs: 36, 54 ,67
Aces: 31, 26, 30
Blocks (BS and BA, cumulative): 159 (7 solo); 138 (12 Solo); 106 (16 solo).

To your point, I think she's better this year than last in a few key respects:serving and backrow defense on her serve). She's also on pace for 246 kills (in addition to her improved athleticism, I think that the uptick in production is fill the void left by Koerber and Mrs. MVP).

So this may be a situation of "we're both right," in that she looks better than in years past, but that she was productive offensively from the get-go.

[LiveCoug]

BYU releases a statement with their official findings. This is a tough situation for BYU. They found absolutely no evidence that racial slurs or heckling occurred. They have to state that in their findings, but have to be careful specifically accusing RR of anything. They can't say she outright made it up. They can't accuse her of mishearing. All they can do is make a blanket generalized statement against racism and stating that they have zero tolerance for such.

Will this mean anything? It's obvious that those that already believe it 100% happened and have biases against BYU already will believe it's some sort of coverup from the institution. Will the ESPN talking heads address the issue? Will they still stand behind RR? Will Dawn Staley care (LOL)?

https://byucougars.com/story/athleti...lleyball-match

[smokymountainrain]

BYU releases a statement with their official findings. This is a tough situation for BYU. They found absolutely no evidence that racial slurs or heckling occurred. They have to state that in their findings, but have to be careful specifically accusing RR of anything. They can't say she outright made it up. They can't accuse her of mishearing. All they can do is make a blanket generalized statement against racism and stating that they have zero tolerance for such.

Will this mean anything? It's obvious that those that already believe it 100% happened and have biases against BYU already will believe it's some sort of coverup from the institution. Will the ESPN talking heads address the issue? Will they still stand behind RR? Will Dawn Staley care (LOL)?

https://byucougars.com/story/athleti...lleyball-match

you're right they are in a tough spot and had to be very careful in their response. they did well. but at this point, nobody cares. damage has been done - the media, general public and dawn staley's of the world have made up their minds.

[beefytee]

Pretty good statement. Had I written it, I might have put something in there to the effect of "regardless of the findings, we are using this opportunity to evaluate and improve our procedures and educate the fans and public at large."

I'm also hoping they improve security around visiting teams, so that you don't have the situation where random fans are approaching them.

[LiveCoug]

So far the twitter reaction is exactly what I expected

"BYU is vindicated and Stephen A Smith should be fired and RR arrested!"

"BYU is evil and horrible and of course they would clear themselves of any wrong doing because they are evil and horrible!"

In other words, nothing changed. As predicted.

[LiveCoug]

Duke's official statement is to double down and side with RR. It's a tough position for them too

https://goduke.com/news/2022/9/9/vol...nina-king.aspx

[Donuthole]

Prediction: Someone who hates BYU/the church is now going to dress as a BYU fan, go to the games, and yell racial slurs.

[Flystripper]

Prediction: Someone who hates BYU/the church is now going to dress as a BYU fan, go to the games, and yell racial slurs.

people are dumb so anything is possible, but I doubt anyone could get away with that right now at BYU. I almost hope somebody tries that because the whole world would come down on them.

[myboynoah]

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