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  • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
    Lol. 5 pt game.
    Closest Idaho St has been all game according to Dave McCann...

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    • are all the eyore's still worried?
      Dyslexics are teople poo...

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      • Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
        are all the eyore's still worried?
        Tut tut, the game was never in doubt, it was the playing down to their opponent for the first 30 minutes.
        "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

        "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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        • Dastrup.
          "What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone

          "What choice?" - Abe Petrovsky

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          • TJ set a BYU record for behind the back passes.
            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

            Dig your own grave, and save!

            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
              I love TJ's game, and despite his current struggles he'll end up as a BYU basketball icon. He's special.
              The Holy Ghost is still with you to some extent. You speak truth.

              I don't know how it happens but this team needs to transition to TJ being the go to perimeter player next year. To me that means he must become BYU's PG. Bryant or Emery or Popoola (if he miraculously shows up) or Beo can man the position when TJ is out but the only way he will become our dominant perimeter player is if the ball is in his hands the most. Emery will get his shots but Nick needs to develop into a good defender, I think he is taking that role, and then hit open jumpers created for him by TJ and Mika. Basically, if he can be a poor man of his brother on defense and then his brother can be a poor man of him on offense in that Nick is much better slashing and dishing as well as hitting the open jumper.

              This is a frustrating year but I think next year subtle improvements in turnovers (15 to 11), 3 pt shooting (32% to 36%) and 2 point shooting (45% to 48%) will result in about 8 more points per game and getting BYU over the hump against the better teams on the schedule.

              I think that the difference between decent and good-very good is not as far as many think. This team starts 2 true freshman - one of whom was on a mission the past two years, another starter was on a mission the past two years and another starter was injured most of the past two years. The other starter has spent all of his life as the man and is having to accept the transition to a "preferred" role player. They should not have lost to UVU and they should have beaten either Valpo or Illinois, but the future is still very bright IMO, but I am an admitted optimist!
              Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
              -General George S. Patton

              I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
              -DOCTOR Wuap

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              • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                The Holy Ghost is still with you to some extent. You speak truth.

                I don't know how it happens but this team needs to transition to TJ being the go to perimeter player next year. To me that means he must become BYU's PG. Bryant or Emery or Popoola (if he miraculously shows up) or Beo can man the position when TJ is out but the only way he will become our dominant perimeter player is if the ball is in his hands the most. Emery will get his shots but Nick needs to develop into a good defender, I think he is taking that role, and then hit open jumpers created for him by TJ and Mika. Basically, if he can be a poor man of his brother on defense and then his brother can be a poor man of him on offense in that Nick is much better slashing and dishing as well as hitting the open jumper.

                This is a frustrating year but I think next year subtle improvements in turnovers (15 to 11), 3 pt shooting (32% to 36%) and 2 point shooting (45% to 48%) will result in about 8 more points per game and getting BYU over the hump against the better teams on the schedule.

                I think that the difference between decent and good-very good is not as far as many think. This team starts 2 true freshman - one of whom was on a mission the past two years, another starter was on a mission the past two years and another starter was injured most of the past two years. The other starter has spent all of his life as the man and is having to accept the transition to a "preferred" role player. They should not have lost to UVU and they should have beaten either Valpo or Illinois, but the future is still very bright IMO, but I am an admitted optimist!
                Agree about TJ. We are better off with him running the point, vs. Rose.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Agree about TJ. We are better off with him running the point, vs. Rose.
                  But I am less than convinced BYU is better when Beo or Guinn or Leifson are on the court instead of LJ.
                  Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                  -General George S. Patton

                  I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                  -DOCTOR Wuap

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                  • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    But I am less than convinced BYU is better when Beo or Guinn or Leifson are on the court instead of LJ.
                    Guinn is a spaz and should be permanently benched. Beo has potential but still has the yips when he shoots. Not sure about Leifson.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Guinn is a spaz and should be permanently benched. Beo has potential but still has the yips when he shoots. Not sure about Leifson.
                      Wasn't it Leifson that took three straight 3s with at least 24 seconds on the clock, badly missing all of them? He deserved to get benched after that.
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                        Guinn is a spaz and should be permanently benched. Beo has potential but still has the yips when he shoots. Not sure about Leifson.
                        I agree. I think Beo would be an adequate back up by next year. I think that his potential is being seen and my guess is he will get the most back up minutes to prepare him for next year. It would be really nice if Elijah could like make a triumphal return like his namesake. If that kid is going to be a key cog going forward he needs minutes.
                        Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                        -General George S. Patton

                        I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                        -DOCTOR Wuap

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                        • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                          I agree. I think Beo would be an adequate back up by next year. I think that his potential is being seen and my guess is he will get the most back up minutes to prepare him for next year. It would be really nice if Elijah could like make a triumphal return like his namesake. If that kid is going to be a key cog going forward he needs minutes.
                          I agree. Right now my bet with GM doesn't look very promising.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            Guinn is a spaz and should be permanently benched. Beo has potential but still has the yips when he shoots. Not sure about Leifson.
                            Leifson is kind of a combination of Guinn and Beo. He has the yips when he shoots, and he's a spaz who should be permanently benched.

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                            • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                              But I am less than convinced BYU is better when Beo or Guinn or Leifson are on the court instead of LJ.
                              LJ is not fully recovered yet he is far better than any of those three. I don't like seeing Guinn or Leifson on the Court. Beo is making improvement toward being a bench player.
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                              Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                              • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                                I agree. I think Beo would be an adequate back up by next year. I think that his potential is being seen and my guess is he will get the most back up minutes to prepare him for next year. It would be really nice if Elijah could like make a triumphal return like his namesake. If that kid is going to be a key cog going forward he needs minutes.
                                Everyone I have spoken with, including former coaches, is shocked Steven is getting minutes this year. It was assumed by all, myself included, he would redshirt this year and maybe get back up minutes next year. I'm sure some of his PT is him working hard and being better than expected. Unfortunately, I think the majority of it is due to the other guards playing much worse than anticipated.

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