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  • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
    I know I do.


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    Me too.

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    "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
    - Goatnapper'96

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    • UT Arlington was the only team to beat SMC besides gonzaga this year. Should be a good test

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      • The boys are still playing. Best thing for this team is to have them play more games. Their youth can progress and develop game experience and understanding. A win or two in the NIT could start the off season off right.

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        • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
          I heard someone say the problem is Rose can't take players out for screwing up and taking ill advised shots, turnovers or poor defense.
          Matt Carlino got benched many times for taking poor shots. He even got moved to the other guard position where he wouldn't have the ball so much just so he wouldn't jack up as many bad shots. It's probably why he transferred. Same with Chase Fischer his junior year. Tavernari got taken out of the starting lineup for the same thing but showed great attitude and made the most of it as a 6rh man. Frank Bartley got taken out several times after committing turnovers. He also transferred. There are many other examples of Rose benching players for this kind of thing.Yet, when he does it, Rose gets criticized when these players transfer. There are always two sides, and fans tend to only remember the sides they want to remember.

          Rose not punishing players sufficiently when they screw up is one of the dumber Rose criticisms, IMO, because for one, it's demonstrably not true that he doesn't bench players or reduce their playing time when he thinks he needs to, and also because there is no way of proving there would be better results if he did it even more.
          Last edited by BlueK; 03-13-2017, 09:07 AM.

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          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
            Matt Carlino got benched many times for taking poor shots. He even got moved to the other guard position where he wouldn't have the ball so much just so he wouldn't jack up as many bad shots. It's probably why he transferred. Same with Chase Fischer his junior year. Tavernari got taken out of the starting lineup for the same thing but showed great attitude and made the most of it as a 6rh man. Frank Bartley got taken out several times after committing turnovers. He also transferred. There are many other examples of Rose benching players for this kind of thing.Yet, when he does it, Rose gets criticized when these players transfer. There are always two sides, and fans tend to only remember the sides they want to remember.

            Rose not punishing players sufficiently when they screw up is one of the dumber Rose criticisms, IMO, becuase for one, it's demonstrably not true that he doesn't bench players or reduce their playing time, and 2, there is no way of proving there would be better results if he did it more.
            Rose had guys who could step in and replace them. He doesn't have that right now. You are not benching Emery for Beo or Leifson. Emery even with his horrid basketball IQ is still better than Beo and Leifson.
            *Banned*

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            • Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
              The boys are still playing. Best thing for this team is to have them play more games. Their youth can progress and develop game experience and understanding. A win or two in the NIT could start the off season off right.
              I wonder if UT Arlington is a good or bad match up. They have one very good forward, and some good guards, but I am unsure of the style of their play. The fact they defeated SMC in California is cause for concern.
              "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

              Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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              • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                Rose had guys who could step in and replace them. He doesn't have that right now. You are not benching Emery for Beo or Leifson. Emery even with his horrid basketball IQ is still better than Beo and Leifson.


                Neither of those guys were good pick ups.
                "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                  Rose had guys who could step in and replace them. He doesn't have that right now. You are not benching Emery for Beo or Leifson. Emery even with his horrid basketball IQ is still better than Beo and Leifson.
                  Agreed.

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                  • Originally posted by Topper View Post
                    Neither of those guys were good pick ups.
                    They wouldn't be here except for the players who quit or transferred out. Guys like Calvert and Toolson didn't want to play behind Emery and Haws, but they would have been better than the new guys.

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                    • Originally posted by Topper View Post
                      I wonder if UT Arlington is a good or bad match up. They have one very good forward, and some good guards, but I am unsure of the style of their play. The fact they defeated SMC in California is cause for concern.
                      This what it took from SMC for UTA to beat them by 4 points:

                      Landale: 3/10
                      Rahon: 2/7
                      Hermanson: 2/9
                      Fitzner: 3/7
                      Naar: 1/3

                      Essentially SMC's entire team all playing that crappy on the same night is an anomaly. I'm sure UTA played good defense, but that couldn't account for all of it.

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                      • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                        This what it took from SMC for UTA to beat them by 4 points:

                        Landale: 3/10
                        Rahon: 2/7
                        Hermanson: 2/9
                        Fitzner: 3/7
                        Naar: 1/3

                        Essentially SMC's entire team all playing that crappy on the same night is an anomaly. I'm sure UTA played good defense, but that couldn't account for all of it.
                        I read the game report from UT's perspective. Their coach stated they played the perfect defensive game to induce SMC's poor percentages. He claimed it was the best they have ever played.
                        "Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."

                        Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.

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                        • Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
                          I accept that criticism. I am probably too defensive. It's hard to be critical of kids you have had over for dinner. It's hard to bag on coaches who pick up your three year old and carry her around or give you team gear and text you after wins and losses. I love this program. I do what I can to support them in any way they ask. I've gotten soft in my old age.
                          That's why it is better to get texts from the AD, when you humanize the coaches it blinds you from seeing their flaws. Plus the AD has access to better activities than just his sport. #donorhack
                          Get confident, stupid
                          -landpoke

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                            • Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                              wth? what happened?
                              PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                              • Crap.

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