BYU Basketball 2016-2017

[old_gregg]

I started off by saying one of the starting five needed to sit and suggested it be Haws (a cardinal sin evidently). But also admitted that wasn't really a possibility considering the lack of depth. Then I bemoaned the fact the lack of depth was due to going all-in with the LP3 (in particular lauding the great white hope) at the expense of losing some good players.

Regardless, from the start of the season I thought all a long he should come off the bench to replace Rose, but wasn't exactly sure. Now, due to injuries, Rose has moved to the bench permanently. The consequence is—and it should be clear to everyone—Haws is the best point guard. Not Rose or Bryant. And his play of late in that capacity as the straw that stirs the drink on offence, reminds me of Ginobli's similar role with the Spurs.

no offense bro but you might be the dumbest person on this site

[tooblue]

Ok then read Creeksters comment. You wanted him to come off the bench, but now sitting at any point during the game is enough. Also BYU doesn't have the depth of a 5 time NBA champion San Antonio Spurs team. In addition TJ is the 2nd best player on this team behind Mika, Manu has never been the 2nd best player on the Spurs. I might buy an argument of Emery coming off the bench had this team been healthy all year. But Haws makes you sound ridiculous.

I clearly stated he couldn't come off the bench early in the season precisely because Bryant was injured and the team lacked the necessary depth to do so. So, ya—I did make that point. And I don't exactly agree he's the second best player. It's clear he is the best point guard. But Bryant is a better rebounder and maybe defender, with also being a better finisher around the rim. Their shooting is equal. Therefore, it's arguable who is the second best player on the team.

[cougjunkie]

I started off by saying one of the starting five needed to sit and suggested it be Haws (a cardinal sin evidently). But also admitted that wasn't really a possibility considering the lack of depth. Then I bemoaned the fact the lack of depth was due to going all-in with the LP3 (in particular lauding the great white hope) at the expense of losing some good players.

Regardless, from the start of the season I thought all a long he should come off the bench to replace Rose, but wasn't exactly sure. Now, due to injuries, Rose has moved to the bench permanently. The consequence is—and it should be clear to everyone—Haws is the best point guard. Not Rose or Bryant. And his play of late in that capacity as the straw that stirs the drink on offence, reminds me of Ginobli's similar role with the Spurs.

You spelled offense wrong.

[tooblue]

no offense bro but you might be the dumbest person on this site

lol ... who are you exactly? I don't think I've ever interacted with you. Are you a poster who requested a handle change at some point, that I would know from years ago? I'm asking honestly.

[cougjunkie]

I clearly stated he couldn't come off the bench early in the season precisely because Bryant was injured and the team lacked the necessary depth to do so. So, ya—I did make that point. And I don't exactly agree he's the second best player. It's clear he is the best point guard. But Bryant is a better rebounder and maybe defender, with also being a better finisher around the rim. Their shooting is equal. Therefore, it's arguable who is the second best player on the team.

Equal shooting?

TJ: 43% from the floor, 40% from three

Elijah: 43% from the floor, 28% from three.

Not quite equal.

[tooblue]

You spelled offense wrong.

American spelling vs ... other English speaking parts of the world. My auto-correct changes it, because I don't reside in the US ... so, thanks for making America Great again lol

http://grammarist.com/spelling/offence-offense/

[tooblue]

Equal shooting?

TJ: 43% from the floor, 40% from three

Elijah: 43% from the floor, 28% from three.

Not quite equal.

How many games did Bryant miss due to injury? it's arguable who's the better shooter.

[cougjunkie]

How many games did Bryant miss due to injury? it's arguable who's the better shooter.

Missing games results in a lower shooting percentage? I had no idea. I wasn't comparing made shots.

[tooblue]

Missing games results in a lower shooting percentage? I had no idea. I wasn't comparing made shots.

Being injured alters your game, due to limited chances to play meaningful minutes. Haws has shot well, considering he has recently returned from a mission. But why are you only focusing on shooting ... I mentioned rebounding, defence and finishing around the rim. The best decision Haws likely made all night is when, late, instead of pulling up for a short jumper, he gave the ball up to Bryant who backed his big body down the lane and finished at the rim ... Unlike others, I'm sure you watched the game and remember that being a key play in second half.

[cougjunkie]

Being injured alters your game, due to limited chances to play meaningful minutes. Haws has shot well, considering he has recently returned from a mission. But why are you only focusing on shooting ... I mentioned rebounding, defence and finishing around the rim. The best decision Haws likely made all night is when, late, instead of pulling up for a short jumper, he gave the ball up to Bryant who backed his big body back down the lane and finished at the rim ... Unlike others, I'm sure you watched the game and remember that being a key play in second half.

That means that Haws being the primary perimeter scoring option has received extra attention from the defence, therefore he has been forced in to more difficult shots. Sounds like he still wins.

[tooblue]

That means that Haws being the primary perimeter scoring option has received extra attention from the defence, therefore he has been forced in to more difficult shots. Sounds like he still wins.

Again, arguable ... what happens when Emery is not running himself ragged on defence like he did the other night (unheralded), and can't seem to miss? Haws, more than anyone has benefited from Emery just doing what Emery does.

[Non Sequitur]

American spelling vs ... other English speaking parts of the world. My auto-correct changes it, because I don't reside in the US ... so, thanks for making America Great again lol

http://grammarist.com/spelling/offence-offense/

Is this also common in other English speaking parts of the world?

Regardless, from the start of the season I thought all a long he should come off the bench to replace Rose, but wasn't exactly sure. Now, due to injuries, Rose has moved to the bench permanently. The consequence is—and it should be clear to everyone—Haws is the best point guard. Not Rose or Bryant. And his play of late in that capacity as the straw that stirs the drink on offence, reminds me of Ginobli's similar role with the Spurs.

[tooblue]

Is this also common in other English speaking parts of the world?

[Flystripper]

lol...vizzini at it again

[Joe Public]

Some candid comments from Coach Rose:

Why could BYU beat a 29-0 team but lose to the likes of lowly San Diego and Pepperdine?

The answers boil down to inexperience, injuries and reputations.

The first two reasons are related to each other, as BYU lost its only two seniors — Kyle Davis and L.J. Rose — to injuries. But the bigger issue is much more complicated. To simplify, BYU has had too many wannabe-stars and not enough role players. Not every player can be a big-time scorer, like he was in high school or AAU leagues.

“Everybody wants to be the star,” Rose said “I don’t understand that.”

No wonder he doesn’t. Rose played on a college team at Houston that featured future Hall of Famer players Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler, meaning he needed to accept doing the dirty work to get playing time.

Right now, Eric Mika is the only star on this team. Everybody else, no matter their prior credentials, has to accept a particular role for BYU to be successful.

All season, Rose has tried to get his team to understand this. The Cougars got the message against Gonzaga.

“I can really relate to the fact that being a part of a really good team can help you for the rest of your life,” Rose said. “I understand that, and I think there’s a lot of guys who have been through our program and been through it that can tell you that. But it’s just hard right now for young guys to actually see that.”

[. . .]

“There’s not a real experienced core to go to,” Rose said. “These young guys look around at each when things aren’t going well and they wonder who’s the guy that’s going to do it. Then some nights we look around at each other and every one of us thinks we’re going to do it by ourselves.”

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