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  • DrumNFeather
    Invisible Swordsman
    • Nov 2008
    • 8854

    #1021
    Originally posted by The Notorious J.I.C. View Post
    He wasn't late for practice, etc this time. He was completely awol from everything, meetings, practice, class, for 2 days. No one is aware of what happened.
    Sort of reminds me of the Daniel Dean situation a few years ago...just kind of stopped caring at some point.
    "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    • U-Ute
      Non member
      • Aug 2009
      • 2071

      #1022
      Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
      Were accountability and discipline really missing from the program under Boylen? I think there are mixed signs here. On one side, we have the inconsistent results on the court. Ultimately, the bad losses have to start with the coach (especially when there are several good wins mixed in).
      See Marshall Henderson.

      It was much much worse.

      U-Ute

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      • Top Ute
        Junior Member
        • May 2010
        • 2194

        #1023
        Originally posted by U-Ute View Post
        See Marshall Henderson.

        It was much much worse.

        U-Ute
        I'm not sure any coach could help Marshall. His parents apologized to Jimmy for goodness sakes. Henderson shouldn't even be part of the judgment on Boylen as it pertains to "discipline."

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        • Jarid in Cedar
          CS Institutional Memory
          • Jun 2009
          • 13234

          #1024
          Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
          I'm not sure any coach could help Marshall. His parents apologized to Jimmy for goodness sakes. Henderson shouldn't even be part of the judgment on Boylen as it pertains to "discipline."
          I think Boylen ran a decent ship when it came to disciplining players for "citizenship" issues and keeping guys going off the court.

          His problems were about discipline on the court.
          "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

          "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

          "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

          -Rick Majerus

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          • LA Ute
            Receiver of Memory
            • Nov 2008
            • 19512

            #1025
            This is always kinda nice to see:

            GREAT GRADES: The Runnin' Utes are hitting the books with great success this season. Their team grade point average of 3.129 this fall was the program's second-highest mark over the past 20 years. Kyle Perkins led 10 players on the Athletics Academic Honor Roll (3.0 GPAs or higher) with a perfect 4.0. David Foster, Jason Washburn and Hines are expected to earn undergraduate degrees a year early and enroll in graduate programs before finishing their playing careers.
            The story says the highest team GPA was in 2008, under Boylen. Jim excelled at getting good academics out of his kids.

            BTW, re Marshall Henderson, I don't know of any reason why any of those problems can be laid at Boylen's feet. The young man had issues, which I hope he gets past. He is very talented, from what I am told.
            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
            ― W.H. Auden


            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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            • cougjunkie
              *Banned*
              • Nov 2008
              • 23223

              #1026
              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
              This is always kinda nice to see:



              The story says the highest team GPA was in 2008, under Boylen. Jim excelled at getting good academics out of his kids.

              BTW, re Marshall Henderson, I don't know of any reason why any of those problems can be laid at Boylen's feet. The young man had issues, which I hope he gets past. He is very talented, from what I am told.
              Notice how it is always the guys that never play or who aren't very good with the highest GPA's?
              *Banned*

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              • LA Ute
                Receiver of Memory
                • Nov 2008
                • 19512

                #1027
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                Notice how it is always the guys that never play or who aren't very good with the highest GPA's?
                I hadn't noticed that. Maybe it's generally true of D1 players? Drew Hansen was an exception, but I haven't paid much attention to individual players' GPAs.
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden


                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                • cougjunkie
                  *Banned*
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 23223

                  #1028
                  Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  I hadn't noticed that. Maybe it's generally true of D1 players? Drew Hansen was an exception, but I haven't paid much attention to individual players' GPAs.
                  I am sure it is hard to put everything you can in to basketball and in the classroom. The guys that don't see much of a future on the court seem to focus more in the classroom.
                  *Banned*

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                  • LA Ute
                    Receiver of Memory
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 19512

                    #1029
                    Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                    I am sure it is hard to put everything you can in to basketball and in the classroom. The guys that don't see much of a future on the court seem to focus more in the classroom.
                    I agree. That means they're both book-smart and wise.
                    Last edited by LA Ute; 01-25-2012, 07:03 PM.
                    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                    ― W.H. Auden


                    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                    • Top Ute
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 2194

                      #1030
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      Notice how it is always the guys that never play or who aren't very good with the highest GPA's?
                      Tark openly joked about the need of having such players on his powerhouse teams.

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                      • Top Ute
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 2194

                        #1031
                        It's been a while since this thread has been updated. Just wanted to see if we were still getting better. I'm sure someone can tell me that's the case. I know it warmed my heart to know end hearing such sentiments ad nauseum earlier this season.

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                        • U-Ute
                          Non member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2071

                          #1032
                          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                          Notice how it is always the guys that never play or who aren't very good with the highest GPA's?
                          Michael Doleac
                          Larry Cain
                          Drew Hansen
                          Ben Caton
                          Luka Drca
                          Chris Jackson
                          Nate Althoff

                          I think all those guys were 4.0 type of guys.

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                          • LA Ute
                            Receiver of Memory
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19512

                            #1033
                            Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                            It's been a while since this thread has been updated. Just wanted to see if we were still getting better. I'm sure someone can tell me that's the case. I know it warmed my heart to know end hearing such sentiments ad nauseum earlier this season.
                            Looks to me like they regressed against USC and Oregon. For me the USC game was hard to watch. Maybe it was being there in person and watching all those turnovers. I didn't see (or even listen to) the Oregon or Oregon State games.

                            I guess the thing to do now is look for trends. A bad downturn is one thing; a downturn that lasts the rest of season is something else. I do want this season to be over, and soon.
                            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                            ― W.H. Auden


                            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                            • SeattleUte
                              Faith crisis consultant
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 20837

                              #1034
                              Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                              Looks to me like they regressed against USC and Oregon. For me the USC game was hard to watch. Maybe it was being there in person and watching all those turnovers. I didn't see (or even listen to) the Oregon or Oregon State games.

                              I guess the thing to do now is look for trends. A bad downturn is one thing; a downturn that lasts the rest of season is something else. I do want this season to be over, and soon.
                              We didn't regress against Oregon.

                              I think these guys struggle on the road and struggle with that second game in three days. I also think most of them have no business at this level.
                              When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                              --Jonathan Swift

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                              • LA Ute
                                Receiver of Memory
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 19512

                                #1035
                                Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                                We didn't regress against Oregon.

                                I think these guys struggle on the road and struggle with that second game in three days. I also think most of them have no business at this level.
                                Correct. It looked like they played well against Oregon. Brain cramp on my part. The 23 turnovers against Oregon State sounded pretty bad, though.
                                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                                ― W.H. Auden


                                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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