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  • #61
    Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    Tavernari
    Winder
    mike loyd jr

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Surfah View Post
      I am really happy for Rice. This sucks monkey balls for us, but this was his dream job and he deserved it. Also, there goes our Vegas recruits. Interesting that UNLV thinks high enough to hire him over the likes of Mike Dunlap, Ernie Kent, Reggie Theus, and Larry Brown.
      I'm wondering if UNLV's budget problems played a role in the decision to hire him over more qualified candidates like Theus, Brown, and Kent. I'm wondering if Theus or Kent priced themselves out of the job.

      Either that or UNLV just really wanted to gamble and take a shot with the higher risk option. It also helps that Rice is an alum.
      As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
      --Kendrick Lamar

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      • #63
        Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
        I'm wondering if UNLV's budget problems played a role in the decision to hire him over more qualified candidates like Theus, Brown, and Kent. I'm wondering if Theus or Kent priced themselves out of the job.

        Either that or UNLV just really wanted to gamble and take a shot with the higher risk option. It also helps that Rice is an alum.
        Oh brother. This is truly a red-goggled post.

        UNLV people may hate BYU almost as much as Ute fans, but even they can recognize that Rice is a great associate head coach who has played a huge role in helping BYU recruit well and maximize its talent on the floor.

        I'm going to have to cheer for UNLV a little bit now.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
          Oh brother. This is truly a red-goggled post.

          UNLV people may hate BYU almost as much as Ute fans, but even they can recognize that Rice is a great associate head coach who has played a huge role in helping BYU recruit well and maximize its talent on the floor.

          I'm going to have to cheer for UNLV a little bit now.
          People talk about Rice being a great recruiter and I just don't see it. He might be a great recruiter, but what evidence is there of this. BYU has relied primarily on LDS-talent during their great run while Rice was there. It would have taken an incompetent recruiter not to get that talent to Provo. Rice isn't going to be winning battles with Rose for LDS talent, so he is going to have to find a new source of talent. He has some really nice ties to Bishop Gorman, but even those didn't produce a ton of players to BYU.

          Perhaps, I'm missing something and am open to all this evidence that he is a great recruiter.
          As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
          --Kendrick Lamar

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          • #65
            Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
            People talk about Rice being a great recruiter and I just don't see it. He might be a great recruiter, but what evidence is there of this. BYU has relied primarily on LDS-talent during their great run while Rice was there. It would have taken an incompetent recruiter not to get that talent to Provo. Rice isn't going to be winning battles with Rose for LDS talent, so he is going to have to find a new source of talent. He has some really nice ties to Bishop Gorman, but even those didn't produce a ton of players to BYU.

            Perhaps, I'm missing something and am open to all this evidence that he is a great recruiter.

            I disagree about the LDS players comment. This isn't football, where the top LDS talent lines up to pick BYU and spurn Utah on a regular basis.

            Seriously though, there is a lot of history of good LDS recruits going to schools other than BYU. In the mid-2000s the program stagnated under Steve Cleveland, and Rose and Rice had to scramble to keep good players in the fold (Cummard) and get others to sign (Tavernari).
            "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

            - Ty Cobb

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            • #66
              Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
              I disagree about the LDS players comment. This isn't football, where the top LDS talent lines up to pick BYU and spurn Utah on a regular basis.

              Seriously though, there is a lot of history of good LDS recruits going to schools other than BYU. In the mid-2000s the program stagnated under Steve Cleveland, and Rose and Rice had to scramble to keep good players in the fold (Cummard) and get others to sign (Tavernari).
              Agreed.

              Look at guys like Mark Madsen, Rich Jackson, Casey Jacobsen. All LDS and all played a lot for Stanford in the late 90s or early 2000s.

              For BYU to be elite, they have to get those guys and it doesn't always happen. It's hard to know for sure, but I think Rice probably played a role in getting guys who had other "big school" offers like Haws, Emery, the Collinsworths, Davies, etc.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by KillerDog View Post
                Did you watch the video? He was horrible in that video. I hope that was high school or something because it looked awful. Anderson's HS film was much better and Anderson would own the JC ranks ... if anyone would pass him the rock.
                I didn't because I imagined it being like a video of Anderson. Nothing to see there. Thanks for the confirmation.
                I'm like LeBron James.
                -mpfunk

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                • #68
                  Looks like we offered a 6'7 G/F from Western Nebraska CC named Hauns Brereton. Averaged 22 and 7 while shooting 51%. And evidently over the last 17 games this season was scoring 27 per night. Also he has 22 D1 offers.

                  http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsre...-game.html.csp

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    I'm wondering if UNLV's budget problems played a role in the decision to hire him over more qualified candidates like Theus, Brown, and Kent. I'm wondering if Theus or Kent priced themselves out of the job.

                    Either that or UNLV just really wanted to gamble and take a shot with the higher risk option. It also helps that Rice is an alum.
                    Wow. The good news is that by 2014 Rice will have obtained Hill's requisite HC experience and will be a candidate for the next hire.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by EuropeanFootballMale View Post
                      Wow. The good news is that by 2014 Rice will have obtained Hill's requisite HC experience and will be a candidate for the next hire.
                      But by then, they'll be burned-out on coaches with HC experience and decide to take a gamble on a career assistant.
                      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                      There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                      • #71
                        Brereton commits to Hawaii.

                        http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...119804479.html

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                        • #72
                          Big Game James has decided to hang it up... That opens up a scholly.

                          Just tweeted.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                            Big Game James has decided to hang it up... That opens up a scholly.

                            Just tweeted.
                            End of an era.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                              Big Game James has decided to hang it up... That opens up a scholly.

                              Just tweeted.
                              Allez Guillaume! Allez!
                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • #75
                                I just can't imagine a scenario where Bereton is the best JC guy the Cougars could have a shot at after the past two seasons the program has had.

                                Who else are they going after? Stillman White and Bereton it?

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