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  • jay santos
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 13652

    #136
    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
    Let's pretend Rose just left to coach at Indiana. Would you want Stew at BYU (assuming he were otherwise "qualified," i.e., temple recommend-holding)?
    Our programs are at different levels right now. It's not a fair comparison.

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    • Surfah
      Where's Wallace?
      • Nov 2008
      • 33726

      #137
      Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
      Let's pretend Rose just left to coach at Indiana. Would you want Stew at BYU (assuming he were otherwise "qualified," i.e., temple recommend-holding)?
      No, but there aren't many other options for BYU. If he'd change his scheduling philosophy then I wouldn't mind. Going to the WCC we're going to need some quality OOC games to build a resume for March. I think Stew would take his same Utah State approach, win 25 games and bank on winning the conference tourney to get in. And that would bother me. Stew could get by with that on the strength of the Pac 10 if he were at Utah. My issues with Stew aren't the way he coaches. I think he's a hell of a coach. It's his program management that I find bothersome.

      If/when Rose ever leaves BYU, they're going to be in a pinch to find a quality card carrying coach.

      I actually think Arnold in Hawaii would be the best get, but I am hopeful that Rose sticks around long enough for someone like Tim LaComb perhaps to warrant a chance.
      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
      -Turtle
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      • LA Ute
        Receiver of Memory
        • Nov 2008
        • 19512

        #138
        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
        No, but there aren't many other options for BYU. If he'd change his scheduling philosophy then I wouldn't mind. Going to the WCC we're going to need some quality OOC games to build a resume for March. I think Stew would take his same Utah State approach, win 25 games and bank on winning the conference tourney to get in. And that would bother me. Stew could get by with that on the strength of the Pac 10 if he were at Utah. My issues with Stew aren't the way he coaches. I think he's a hell of a coach. It's his program management that I find bothersome.

        If/when Rose ever leaves BYU, they're going to be in a pinch to find a quality card carrying coach.

        I actually think Arnold in Hawaii would be the best get, but I am hopeful that Rose sticks around long enough for someone like Tim LaComb perhaps to warrant a chance.
        I agree. That's why I wonder if he'd even want the PAC12. I am not sure he's not happy to stay in the WAC.
        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
        ― W.H. Auden


        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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        • Flystripper
          Degenerate Gambler
          • Nov 2008
          • 14089

          #139
          If BYU or Utah went ofter Stew he would say no. He really really likes USU. He is a god there and he doesn't have nearly the pressure he would have a BYU or Utah. I think he is under contract until like 2015 or something as well.
          Dyslexics are teople poo...

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          • MartyFunkhouser
            Disciple of RNGesus
            • Nov 2008
            • 18725

            #140
            Originally posted by Flystripper View Post
            If BYU or Utah went ofter Stew he would say no. He really really likes USU. He is a god there and he doesn't have nearly the pressure he would have a BYU or Utah. I think he is under contract until like 2015 or something as well.
            I agree that he would turn down BYU and Utah as both would offer a better conference affiliation. He is probably thrilled about the WAC getting weaker in basketball and that will make him want to stay in Logan even more.
            As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
            --Kendrick Lamar

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            • LA Ute
              Receiver of Memory
              • Nov 2008
              • 19512

              #141
              Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
              I agree that he would turn down BYU and Utah as both would offer a better conference affiliation. He is probably thrilled about the WAC getting weaker in basketball and that will make him want to stay in Logan even more.
              Brutal, but largely true, I think, and funny.
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden


              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • UteStar
                Sexiest Poster in Town
                • Nov 2008
                • 2419

                #142
                Interesting article on Mike Dunlap (a guy who a lot Ute fans liked to replace Majerus and to replace Gaic): The article is a year old but it talks about his experiences (head coach at Denver Metro, Assistant for the Nuggets, Arizona and now Oregon): http://special.registerguard.com/csp...oregon-ppg.csp

                Now he is an assistant at St. Johns: http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindduc...istant_mi.html

                Of note, while he was at Arizona, he was offered the interim head job at Arizona when Lute retired but he turned it down (I believe because he didn't think he would be given a real chance at the job).

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                • LA Ute
                  Receiver of Memory
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19512

                  #143
                  Originally posted by UteStar View Post
                  Interesting article on Mike Dunlap (a guy who a lot Ute fans liked to replace Majerus and to replace Gaic): The article is a year old but it talks about his experiences (head coach at Denver Metro, Assistant for the Nuggets, Arizona and now Oregon): http://special.registerguard.com/csp...oregon-ppg.csp

                  Now he is an assistant at St. Johns: http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindduc...istant_mi.html
                  I don't think Hill will hire another assistant to be Utah's HC. Just my guess.
                  “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                  ― W.H. Auden


                  "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                  -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                  "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                  --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                  • DrumNFeather
                    Invisible Swordsman
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 8854

                    #144
                    Do you think Dr. Hill is scribbling out a short list today? I sure hope so.
                    "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                    • Surfah
                      Where's Wallace?
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 33726

                      #145
                      Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                      Do you think Dr. Hill is scribbling out a short list today? I sure hope so.
                      Today? He should have had that list started last year.
                      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                      -Turtle
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                      • DrumNFeather
                        Invisible Swordsman
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 8854

                        #146
                        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        Today? He should have had that list started last year.
                        Haha, no kidding. In that case, I hope he's dusting it off or laminating it or something.
                        "They're good. They've always been good" - David Shaw.

                        Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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                        • LA Ute
                          Receiver of Memory
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19512

                          #147
                          Originally posted by DrumNFeather View Post
                          Haha, no kidding. In that case, I hope he's dusting it off or laminating it or something.
                          He says he always has one, for all sports.
                          “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                          ― W.H. Auden


                          "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                          -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                          "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                          --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                          • kccougar
                            9262
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 7020

                            #148
                            So has the decision been made already? I've read in more than one place that it's a done deal. Boylen will be sent packing at the end of the season. Has anyone heard more than fan/booster griping at this point?
                            "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                            • Jarid in Cedar
                              CS Institutional Memory
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 13234

                              #149
                              Originally posted by kccougar View Post
                              So has the decision been made already? I've read in more than one place that it's a done deal. Boylen will be sent packing at the end of the season. Has anyone heard more than fan/booster griping at this point?
                              Some posters with inside sources that have been spot on with a few other things in the B-Ball program(ie some of the defections last year, etc), have said that he will finish the season and be gone at that point.
                              "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                              "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                              "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                              -Rick Majerus

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                              • scottie
                                Junior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 5247

                                #150
                                Would Bob Knight be the shot in the arm that the program needs? He's 70, so maybe Hill could also announce some sort of a succession plan. I doubt he wants to coach again though.

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