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Right. When you can't play a guy because he's a turnstyle on defense due to being really slow and cemented to the ground because of poor conditioning, it does speak to talent somewhat. I suppose there would have been a place for Payton as a Jared Dudley type where you space the floor with him for a couple open corner 3 looks per game, but there's that whole problem of having to run back and defend the other side of the floor. That doesn't really fit the profile of a top 100 National recruit with offers from Kansas, Arizona, OSU, et al. He was on the BYU roster when we were so devoid of talent, we had to start and play Luke Worthington in meaningful frontcourt minutes.Originally posted by smokymountainrain View PostIt was one of his problems. He just wasn’t that good.
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Roger, the guy was buried at the depth chart at Oregon State. Clearly, nobody other than a few BYU fans who overrate him being really good at "horse" one day against Utah are still wondering. The data and evidence is pretty clear- nobody he has played for at the college level thought enough of him to put him in the game very often or for very long.Originally posted by wapiti View PostActually, we do know.
Whatever the reason lets just accept that he isn't very good.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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I take him for my Ward team. We are awesome!Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View PostRoger, the guy was buried at the depth chart at Oregon State. Clearly, nobody other than a few BYU fans who overrate him being really good at "horse" one day against Utah are still wondering. The data and evidence is pretty clear- nobody he has played for at the college level thought enough of him to put him in the game very often or for very long.
Whatever the reason lets just accept that he isn't very good.
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Good call.Originally posted by HBCoug View PostSU-issssh!
I feed bad for him. Seems like a good guy."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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If nothing more, he made us feel good about ourselves and BYU Basketball for a time, so I give him credit for that.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostGood call.
I feed bad for him. Seems like a good guy.
Yes, he did seem like a good guy. We need more good guys in the world.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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Lefty with a nice looking stroke and good touch around the basket. Consider me intrigued.Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock
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I don't have low self esteem! BYU has, what, five guys in recent years who were in the ESPN top 100 at some point: Mika, Haws, Emery, Dastrup, and Childs? I think Dastrup is by far the most likely to not live up to expectations based on nothing more than watching the kid's highlights. He's lumbering and not nearly as athletic as guys he'll be going up against at the PF spot outside of WCC play -- and I don't need a linked clip of him in a dunk contest at 6'9" dunking with no one guarding him as proof to the contrary. I think the short-term future of BYU hoops is very bright, but I don't think Dastrup will be a big reason why. Happy to be wrong about the kid.
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