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[TripletDaddy]

apparently Frank's dad just publicly congratulated him on facebook for his Duke offer. Checking the past he hasn't done that for any of this other offers. Hmmm....I could be totally wrong, but I suspect his dad is possibly getting carried away more by all the attention and notoriety than Frank is. But who knows. My hunch is that Frank listening more to mom here turns out better for BYU than listening to dad. ;-)

Wait until Frank starts reading Portland Ute's tweets!

[Joe Public]

A commit when a kid is 15 years old and doesn't yet know how good he is, I can understand if he opts to open things up to other offers. As much as I really want him to go to BYU. I don't care so much about that. If Dave Rose can be so gracious about it (per what the family has said), I think as just a fan, I should be able to give him some leeway there as well.

But I think from his perspective, the mission thing would be a much bigger deal. It's one thing to say that you're thinking about a mission, but it's another to tell national basketball writers that it's "non-negotiable" knowing fans all over the country and college basketball coaches are going to read it.

What I'm wondering about is how his parents (and maybe mostly his dad, assuming his mom may not be a big sports fan) would seem to be so naive about this whole process. Maybe they haven't been, but it sure comes across this way if you follow the timeline based on what has been solidly reported, not just internet rumors, but from what has come out in published stories by those who have interviewed them. I can understand how at age 15 they wouldn't yet know how good he was. What's weird to me is how even after the national camps and getting calls and texts from the likes of the original Coach K, they still tell national basketball writers about how committed they are to the mission. But I don't quite get how that changes just a few weeks later. I'm sure the recruiting has intensified, but it was already pretty intense, I would have thought, back when they last stated the mission intentions just a few weeks ago. Did they not realize at the time that they were that close to re-thinking it?

I blame grapevine:

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...y-disobedience

[BlueK]

I blame grapevine:

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthr...y-disobedience

LOL. Yeah, grapevine's influence on here can be pretty powerful sometimes.

[BlueK]

And let the record state, I was just making fun of a comment I saw on CB. I even think the same guy went on to say something like, "The point should be addressed" when someone pointed out that FJ was only 15 when he committed. LOL.

Your post reminded me of one of the craziest CB posts of all time:

Illegal Jimmergrant


I really hope Rose doesn't cave and let Dastrup sign. He made his choice. He has to live with the consequences. You can't spurn us one day and a week later come groveling back. If anything, I think he should enroll at BYU as a regular student. After a year, he is welcome to try out for the team. If he proves himself on the court (and that he really loves us), we can talk about a scholarship.

and that post got this response:

FunkeCoug11


Agree, Rose should do as Bronco and give him stipulations before he lets him sign

[scottie]

Your post reminded me of one of the craziest CB posts of all time:

Illegal Jimmergrant


I really hope Rose doesn't cave and let Dastrup sign. He made his choice. He has to live with the consequences. You can't spurn us one day and a week later come groveling back. If anything, I think he should enroll at BYU as a regular student. After a year, he is welcome to try out for the team. If he proves himself on the court (and that he really loves us), we can talk about a scholarship.

and that post got this response:

FunkeCoug11


Agree, Rose should do as Bronco and give him stipulations before he lets him sign

[New Mexican Disaster]

LOL. Yeah, grapevine's influence on here can be pretty powerful sometimes.

Well Grape did make a great point about death following disobedience on missions. I'll bet the Jackson family didn't even think about that. That would really derail Frank's career.

[Portland Ute]

I see I've been all the rage here. Thanks guys. You're simply the best.

That said, there were more than 3 cherry picked Tweets.

I'd say almost the same for BYU as Utah.

I'm not certain that Duke offers Frank anything more than BYU either, except a strong conference. BYU has a lot of talent that will surround Frank if he went to BYU. With Frank, either Utah or BYU are contenders for a national championship.

The kid is headed to the NBA regardless of where he goes to school, so it's not as if Duke offers him a chance to get to the NBA and a Utah or BYU do not.

Academics? That's all cool and whatever, but he's only going to be in college for a year, maybe 2. He's not going to graduate. The academic issue is, seeminly, a moot point.

Coaching? Coach K is undoubtedly a more proven and succesful coach than Rose or Krysko. Again, though, it's not as if Rose did Jimmer any disservices. He featured the hell out of the kid and made him a nationally known name. Krysko, putting on my red goggles, is no slouch of a coach, either. He seemed to do right by Delon and Poeltl has made strides and will be drafted next year.

Conference? Again, I think this is one area that Utah has over BYU. For Utah, the PAC12 isn't small potatoes. It's not the ACC, but it's certainly a notable basketball conference.

Now, I think there are things that both BYU and Utah offer Frank that Duke simply cannot. 1) Family at every home and conference tournament game. 2) He has the chance to be a legend at BYU and Utah. At Duke, he'll be one of dozens of great but nearly forgotten names from the past. Duke is great, but he's very unlikely to be a legend there. At Utah or BYU, he'd almost certainly have that opportunity. 3) While I'm not completely famliar with who Duke is recruiting, it won't be Frank's team. He'll be one of several blue bloods. The guard ahead of him isn't going to just step aside. He'll be fighting for minutes. At Utah and BYU, it'd be his team and he'd not have to compete for minutes. 4) The girlfriend. From what I understand, he's quite tight with his girl in Alpine. SLC and Provo are a LOT closer to her than Durham.



He can play in a Final Four and even an championship at Utah or BYU. He'll be an All American at Utah or BYU. He'll go to the NBA from Utah or BYU. He'll get solid coaching at Utah or BYU.

He can accomplish anything at Utah or BYU that he could at Duke....and have a much larger legacy at those schools than Duke....AND do it in front of friends and family....and the girlfriend.

That said, I believe he's going to Duke. I'd be surprised if he doesn't.

Let the derision ensue.

[Commando]

The draw of the fame, notoriety, and the fraternity of Duke alumni is going to be too much. I agree that if a kid is NBA bound he's NBA bound and going to Utah or BYU will get you there (even if you don't belong in the NBA), but kids want the "big time" in college, too.

[Goatnapper'96]

I see I've been all the rage here. Thanks guys. You're simply the best.

That said, there were more than 3 cherry picked Tweets.

I'd say almost the same for BYU as Utah.

I'm not certain that Duke offers Frank anything more than BYU either, except a strong conference. BYU has a lot of talent that will surround Frank if he went to BYU. With Frank, either Utah or BYU are contenders for a national championship.

The kid is headed to the NBA regardless of where he goes to school, so it's not as if Duke offers him a chance to get to the NBA and a Utah or BYU do not.

Academics? That's all cool and whatever, but he's only going to be in college for a year, maybe 2. He's not going to graduate. The academic issue is, seeminly, a moot point.

Coaching? Coach K is undoubtedly a more proven and succesful coach than Rose or Krysko. Again, though, it's not as if Rose did Jimmer any disservices. He featured the hell out of the kid and made him a nationally known name. Krysko, putting on my red goggles, is no slouch of a coach, either. He seemed to do right by Delon and Poeltl has made strides and will be drafted next year.

Conference? Again, I think this is one area that Utah has over BYU. For Utah, the PAC12 isn't small potatoes. It's not the ACC, but it's certainly a notable basketball conference.

Now, I think there are things that both BYU and Utah offer Frank that Duke simply cannot. 1) Family at every home and conference tournament game. 2) He has the chance to be a legend at BYU and Utah. At Duke, he'll be one of dozens of great but nearly forgotten names from the past. Duke is great, but he's very unlikely to be a legend there. At Utah or BYU, he'd almost certainly have that opportunity. 3) While I'm not completely famliar with who Duke is recruiting, it won't be Frank's team. He'll be one of several blue bloods. The guard ahead of him isn't going to just step aside. He'll be fighting for minutes. At Utah and BYU, it'd be his team and he'd not have to compete for minutes. 4) The girlfriend. From what I understand, he's quite tight with his girl in Alpine. SLC and Provo are a LOT closer to her than Durham.



He can play in a Final Four and even an championship at Utah or BYU. He'll be an All American at Utah or BYU. He'll go to the NBA from Utah or BYU. He'll get solid coaching at Utah or BYU.

He can accomplish anything at Utah or BYU that he could at Duke....and have a much larger legacy at those schools than Duke....AND do it in front of friends and family....and the girlfriend.

That said, I believe he's going to Duke. I'd be surprised if he doesn't.

Let the derision ensue.

I think he is going to end up at Duke, but I still think BYU has a good shot with him. I have no issues with him already deciding a mission is no longer in his plans. I think that change really illuminates how easy it was for us nobodies to be noble and that perhaps if we had legitimate sacrifices to make perhaps many of us would have not served. I also think that is his loss. If he does choose BYU he will be the highlight of the team for one- two years in a system that will allow him significant freedom and he will have a pretty decent supporting cast. I would think that given that reality and the nature of being close to home puts BYU in a far better position than it was with Jabari Parker or even a Mormon kid from anywhere outside of Utah.

[BlueK]

BYU just offered to this transfer prospect. He has 3 years to play and would have to sit out this upcoming season. Has some other pretty good offers, but shockingly not one from Gonzaga.

http://byuinsider.com/basketball/elijah-bryant/

[BlueK]

Kingma is taking his official visit to Eugene in 2 weeks. With the state of Oregon basketball right now I would be shocked to see him end up here, players leaving, not winning, things are in chaos. I'll post any report given of his trip.

I guess not getting Brett Kingma (who along with Damarcus Harrison was the subject of the first post of this thread) worked out ok for BYU

http://www.wwuvikings.com/sports/m-b...ma_909973.html

[BlueK]

BYU just offered to this transfer prospect. He has 3 years to play and would have to sit out this upcoming season. Has some other pretty good offers, but shockingly not one from Gonzaga.

http://byuinsider.com/basketball/elijah-bryant/

Vanquish the foe reports now that his twitter account says he is LDS. Our chances just went way up. He seems to be a late bloomer who had a great freshman year.

[BlueK]

Now here's an interesting tweet I just saw on ESPN from Jeff Borzello:


ESPN 100 Brendan Bailey told me he's considering taking a mission before college and enrolling as a freshman in 2018.

5:56 PM - 8 Jul 2015

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffborze...6928212992?p=v

[falafel]

Now here's an interesting tweet I just saw on ESPN from Jeff Borzello:


ESPN 100 Brendan Bailey told me he's considering taking a mission before college and enrolling as a freshman in 2018.

5:56 PM - 8 Jul 2015

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffborze...6928212992?p=v

I thought he was a transfer?

[Donuthole]

I thought he was a transfer?

Wrong kid.